On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 01:59:58PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote: > Perhaps it's due to some patch being applied, but Debian's mutt is > perfectly capable of retaining the 'N'ew mail label as long as you're using > maildir. Yeah, but there are two problems with what you just said: - 'N'ew mail label - as long as you're using maildir The first one is a problem because the mail ISN'T new... it's been seen already, it just hasn't been read. The second is a problem because not everyone uses maildir, and there are perfectly valid reasons not to use it. The fact remains that mbox is faster for opening and searching in large mailboxes, making it much better for (in particular, but not exclusively) archive folders. I've posted some ideas for fixing this problem before... but the developers ignored them completely -- no feedback whatever. The only comment on the ideas was from a couple of lurkers. This is why people are complaining. Users are frustrated because great features they've seen in other mailers are missing from mutt, and are slow to be added. Coders are frustrated because when they actually take the time an effort to code some of these things, often the developers turn a deaf ear... in many cases not even so much as aknowledging the idea/patch/feature/whatever, let alone explaining their reluctance. Now granted, a lot of the reason is because there are only a handful of developers with commit access, and they're all pretty busy. This imposes practical limits on what can be reviewed, approved, and included; but acknowledging this does nothing to quell people's frustrations. Hence the mutt-ng fork (the fact that it is suffering from the same problems notwithstanding). Here's another idea for how to fix this specific problem: If you don't want to deal with the difference between unread and new mail, change the behavior of the change folder function. Make the list of folders a ring instead of a list. This way, unread mail only comes up first after all the folders with new mail have been touched first. The current behavior sucks. If you're using maildir, you keep getting bounced back to the first folder you have with new mail in it. But I already saw that mail, and I don't want to read it now. Instead, show me the NEXT folder after the one I'm in which has new mail. If you have mbox, you're totally lost, because mutt forgets there's new mail in your folders altogether. In both cases, the behavior totally sucks, but it doesn't even suck consistently. And if you happen to use BOTH formats, it's absolutely maddening... -- Derek D. Martin http://www.pizzashack.org/ GPG Key ID: 0xDFBEAD02 -=-=-=-=- This message is posted from an invalid address. Replying to it will result in undeliverable mail. Sorry for the inconvenience. Thank the spammers.
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