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[OT] Re: SpamCop



Anthony Edwards wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 01:16:41PM -0400, Todd wrote:
>
>> I use SpamAssassin and Vipul's Razor.  I completely avoid SpamCop as
>> their practices are incredibly brain-dead.  They will happily blacklist
>> an entire class c network if on of the IP's on it sends spam.
>
> No, they won't.  If all addresses on a given /24 were transmitting
> sufficient Unsolicited Bulk Email to get each one listed then that
> *could* happen, but that is exceedingly unlikely.
>
> Please see:
>
> http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/297.html

In reading the FAQ quickly, it doesn't say anything about not listing
/24's.  If they don't do that anymore, then I assume they have changed
their policy, whether it's stated or unstated.  If so, good for them.

When SpamCop blocked Politech, the rationale that I recall reading
from Julian or the spamcop site stated more or less that they blocked
entire /24's to put pressure on the block's owner to dump the spammer.

In this message to Politech (http://www.politechbot.com/p-04132.html),
Julian Haight says this:

    "Rackspace has been negligent in this case.  They had an open
    relay which they should have been aware of since at least 9/6/02.
    That relay is still on their network, sending massive amounts of
    spam.  Since complaints from their spam-victims don't seem to have
    any effect, perhaps complaints from their paying users will!  If
    rackspace does not take action to stop this source of spam, it is
    quite possible that other, innocent rackspace customers will be
    affected again."

So you're saying they don't block /24's to put pressure on the owners
to remove the spammer?

> You may be getting confused between SpamCop and SPEWS:
>
> http://spews.org/

No, I meant SpamCop.  And the URL I sent specifically mentioned
Politech being blacklisted by SpamCop.

Regardless, it is entirely off topic here so I'll refrain from
bringing it up further.  Feel free to use whatever anti-spam blacklist
you choose.  I choose not to use SpamCop when there are so many
alternatives that don't block legitimate mail.

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