This whole thread has already died. Before it died, some of us (myself included) went too far, and way too off topic. I'm not going to add any more to this, and I ask you to consider leaving it alone as well. Back to discussing mutt! :-) -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD User Group | MetaBUG dwchandler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | http://phxbug.org/ | http://metabug.org/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ | Daemons in the Desert | Global BUG Federation