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Am 2007-05-19 17:11:46, schrieb Rado S:
> - Publicly posed requests deserve public responses, sending private
> responses is offending.
It depends, since sometime responses are OFF-TOPIC
and should be answered OFF-LIST per PM.
> - There is no need for private contact as long as the member doesn't
> harm the functionality of the public service or its members.
> If there are personal complaints worth doing something about
> it, then inspecting a "how to contact privately" won't kill
> your intention, and then do it off-list.
> If that fails, contact the list-owner for help.
> Using an invalid/ blackholed personal addr is _not_ harmful
> for the purpose of the mailing list.
This IS YOUR opinion!
If you have ONLY MAIL-ACCESS and now Web-Access like me over my GSM-
Provider, you are fucked! (I can not get ADSL or POT where I live)
> - While Derek over-reacted and before it was his turn, I ask
> everyone who _starts_ off-topic requests to put an
> invitation on a topical list for interested parties to come
> over to mutt-ot and set appropriate MFT+RT headers.
> Derek just made things worse where others failed at first,
> it wasn't a single person's fault when things went bad.
Since I do not want to be spamed from <mutt-ot> I am not subscribed and
my first answer to your message was rejected. So I send to <mutt-users>.
> - There are on-topic places to discuss what is off-topic for mutt-
> related places. You have mutt-ot as a _convenience offer_
> not to have to search for the proper on-topic places.
> Using it doesn't cost you much but helps reducing spam for
> everyone else.
> If interested parties don't want to follow, they aren't
> interested enough, and non-interested parties shouldn't be
> spammed for their short-comming.
> (not all have broadband + flatrates, yet)
You have samed me with a Mail on which I can not respond.
This OFFEND me!
> - everyone else: Derek has made up his mind and decided the best way
> for him without harming anyone else: it may be inconvenient
> that you can't simply hit 'r' to send him a private msg for
> a _public request_, but there is no requirement for it, as
> long as you can reach him at reasonable time.
It cost me money IF I WANT TO CONTACT HIM privately...
(E-Mail is free for me, but Web-Searches and such are not)
> As much as fighting spam asks for non-traditional ways of dealing
> with it, so does ML/OT handling. Don't become a spammer yourself.
I hate spamers and I hate peoples like Derek. If I send a message
I get every time from stupid peoples like him tonns of SPAM back.
This IS OFFENDING!
> All of you please think before you post, and use mutt-ot where it
> applies. I don't mean to kill creative and interesting discussions
And WHY should I subscribe to a Spam-List for Topics,
I am not interested in?
> or simple administrative meta discussions about the lists. I just
> ask you not to annoy (==spam) those not interested in this, since
> they haven't asked for it.
I have NOT ASK for a message coming from <mutt-ot>
ON WHICH I CAN NOT RESPOND! -- You have spamed me!
Greetings
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant
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