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Re: [ga] ICANN Sunrise Policy at work...



Don and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

  Your absolutely right here Don.  And I believe as a UK citizen
Richard has been told this before and whom he should direct
such complaints towards.  I know I have told Richard how, whom
and where before on more than one occasion.  Embarrassing
ICANN is not a useful tactic as many of the BoD and staff have
no shame...  But indeed are shameful none the less..

Don Brown wrote:

> Good point.  Waste of energy.
>
> ICANN was created by the USG and must be taken down by the creator.
> Redirect your efforts to the place which has the power to do
> something.
>
> Telling a thief he is a thief and should reform, doesn't generally get
> very much mileage.  Giving the evidence, and complaining, to the cops
> and the DA, usually gets some movement.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Wednesday, November 19, 2003, 3:10:47 PM, Richard Henderson 
> <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> RH> HelpCan I ask what purpose has been served by ICANN's Sunrise Policy with 
> regard to .info Sunrise registrations like this one, which appear to be 
> founded on spurious trademark details, appear to
> RH> prevent legitimate use of domain by the rest of the world, and about 
> which nothing seems to have been done since the last update over 2 years ago? 
> There are, believe it or not, actually people in
> RH> Cornwall and elsewhere who could make legitimate use of domains like 
> these. Has the Sunrise Policy actually prevented legitimate use of domains 
> instead of protecting legitimate use? Why have
> RH> names like these been neglected for over 2 years? Why were such spurious 
> trademark claims ever accepted in the first place? How much money did the 
> Afilias cartel of registrars make from the sale
> RH> of these fake Sunrise registrations? (For example, the 4981 fake 
> registrations sold to one individual by one registrar in the Afilias cartel.)
>
> RH> Could Dan Halloran or an Afilias representative kindly justify this?
>
> RH> Sample .info Sunrise registration (try it yourself at 
> http://www.afilias.info/whois_search/ ) :
>
> RH> www.cornwall.info
>
> RH>       Domain ID:  D77345-LRMS
> RH>       Domain Name:  CORNWALL.INFO
> RH>       Created On:  23-Aug-2001 21:32:40 UTC
> RH>       Last Updated On:  05-Oct-2001 17:44:38 UTC
> RH>       Expiration Date:  23-Aug-2006 21:32:40 UTC
> RH>       Trademark Name:  Unknown Tradeamark
> RH>       Trademark Date:  1899-12-30
> RH>       Trademark Country:  GB
> RH>       Trademark Number:  123456
> RH>       Sponsoring Registrar:  Tucows, Inc. dba OpenSRS (R139-LRMS)
> RH>       Status:  ACTIVE
> RH>       Status:  LOCKED
> RH>       Status:  OK
> RH>       Registrant ID:  C179870-LRMS
> RH>       Registrant Name:  Toby Lawrence
> RH>       Registrant Organization:  Just Browsing Ltd
> RH>       Registrant Street1:  PO BOX 17
> RH>       Registrant Street2:  Wallasey
> RH>       Registrant City:  Cheshire
> RH>       Registrant State/Province:  unknown
> RH>       Registrant Postal Code:  CH456WA
> RH>       Registrant Country:  GB
> RH>       Registrant Phone:  +44.01516371807
> RH>       Registrant Email:  lordtoby@xxxxxxxxx
> RH>       Admin ID:  C179870-LRMS
> RH>       Admin Name:  Toby Lawrence
> RH>       Admin Organization:  Just Browsing Ltd
> RH>       Admin Street1:  PO BOX 17
> RH>       Admin Street2:  Wallasey
> RH>       Admin City:  Cheshire
> RH>       Admin State/Province:  unknown
> RH>       Admin Postal Code:  CH456WA
> RH>       Admin Country:  GB
> RH>       Admin Phone:  +44.01516371807
> RH>       Admin Email:  lordtoby@xxxxxxxxx
> RH>       Billing ID:  C179870-LRMS
> RH>       Billing Name:  Toby Lawrence
> RH>       Billing Organization:  Just Browsing Ltd
> RH>       Billing Street1:  PO BOX 17
> RH>       Billing Street2:  Wallasey
> RH>       Billing City:  Cheshire
> RH>       Billing State/Province:  unknown
> RH>       Billing Postal Code:  CH456WA
> RH>       Billing Country:  GB
> RH>       Billing Phone:  +44.01516371807
> RH>       Billing Email:  lordtoby@xxxxxxxxx
> RH>       Tech ID:  C179870-LRMS
> RH>       Tech Name:  Toby Lawrence
> RH>       Tech Organization:  Just Browsing Ltd
> RH>       Tech Street1:  PO BOX 17
> RH>       Tech Street2:  Wallasey
> RH>       Tech City:  Cheshire
> RH>       Tech State/Province:  unknown
> RH>       Tech Postal Code:  CH456WA
> RH>       Tech Country:  GB
> RH>       Tech Phone:  +44.01516371807
> RH>       Tech Email:  lordtoby@xxxxxxxxx
> RH>       Name Server:  NS1.LIVEDNS.CO.UK
> RH>       Name Server:  NS2.LIVEDNS.CO.UK
>
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