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Re: [council] NCA Assignments


Hi,

Once the lottery number was drawn it was done, all anyone needed to
do was run the code.

I.e anyone could have known and to pretend otherwise would have
achieved nothing.

Of course the council can always reconsider its previous decisions.
But we should not pretend that things that could be known are not known.

a.

On 8 Oct 2009, at 13:32, Gomes, Chuck wrote:


I think it is unfortunate that the results of the random process were
communicated before our meeting.  I know we agreed on a plan but we
could decide to change the plan in today's meeting. There seemed to be 
strong support for seating Terry in the Non-Contracted Party House. In
my opinion, it would be preferrable to honor that support; I did not see 
any objection to seating Terry there and both the RySG and CSG
communicated their support for that.

Assuming that I am correct, i.e., that there is support for seating
Terry in the Non-Contracted party house, and assuming that it is
desirable to minimize going against the NCA wishes as much as possible, then we could change the decision process to one of the following, both of which would seat Terry in the Non-Contracted Party House and then: 1) 
seat Andrei in the non-voting Council seat as planned if there was not
consensus and Olga in the Contracted Party House; 2) apply a random
process for the remaining two seats.
It would have been better to consider this before knowing the results of 
the random process but we could still change the process.

Chuck


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:12 AM
To: Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] NCA Assignments


Hi,

Not having heard, and proceeding to the final step,



d. If the GNSO Council Houses and/or their respective Stakeholder
Groups are unable to reach agreement, then the new,

inexperienced NCA

will take the non-voting Council seat and random selection will be
used to assign the other two NCAs to Houses before the Council
meeting on 8 October 2009.


Note: If I need to do a random selection, I will use the

Wednesday 7

Oct Powerball Lottery number
(http://www.powerball.com/powerball/pb_numbers.asp
) as seed to the  IETF RFC3797 random selection algorithm with the
names ordered alphabetic by first name.; ie. Olga, Terry.

Doing so,

however, will result in at least one of the NCAs being given an
assignment that is contrary to their expressed interests.


The lottery number for yesterday was: 2 20 21 38 50

Using alphabetical order for the picks, the names are ordered:

1. Olga
2. Terry

Also using alphabetical order for the assignments,

1st name picked goes to Contracted Parties House 2nd name
picked goes to Non Contracted Parties House

the RFC3797 program run (included below) picks #2 first

meaning:

Terry is assigned to Contracted
Olga is assigned to Non Contracted
Andrei, by motion, is non-voting Council seat.

a.

Run of the RFC3797 program

Type size of pool:
(or 'exit' to exit) 2
Type number of items to be selected:
(or 'exit' to exit) 1
Approximately 1.1 bits of entropy needed.

Type #1 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.
Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up to 16
x.y format reals.
2 20 21 38 50
2 20 21 38 50
Type #2 randomness or 'end' followed by new line.
Up to 16 integers or the word 'float' followed by up to 16
x.y format reals.
end
Key is:
 2.20.21.38.50./
index        hex value of MD5        div  selected
 1  EFC9E973E94E5D3BB70D8CDE6C0EDBCD   2  ->  2 <-

Done, type any character to exit.


On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:05, Avri Doria wrote:



Hi,

I have not heard from any of the other SG representative on the
subject of NCA assignment.

I will run the lottery shortly unless I hear that people

have reached

agreement.

Using alphabetical order for the picks, the names will be ordered:

1. Olga
2. Terry

Using alphabetical order for the assignments,

1st name picked goes to Contracted Parties House 2nd name

picked goes

to Non Contracted Parties House

thanks

a.



On 8 Oct 2009, at 00:53, Avri Doria wrote:



Hi,

Thanks Kristina.

Assuming the NCSG agrees, it remains for the Contracted

Parties House

to agree or not to the assignment of Andrei.  If they do, I assume
the assignment of Olga as the non voting just falls out.

I am in the UK, and about to go to sleep after a longs

day's flight.

I will hold off running the random selection until I hear

back from

folks tomorrow.

a.



On 7 Oct 2009, at 16:08, Rosette, Kristina wrote:


All,

On behalf of the Commercial Stakeholder Group, I write to advise
that Terry's preference to be assigned to the

Non-Contracted Parties

House is acceptable to us.  I communicated this information
yesterday to the NCSG point person on the issue.  As no

other SG has

yet posted any assignment-related information, we are

posting to the

Council list in the hope of facilitating Council

completion of the

assignment process in the previously agreed upon timeframe.

K