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RE: [council] GNSO Council Restructuring - a wrinkle in the two houses approach



Philip,
 
Actually, this is not a new train of thought although the specific stakeholder groups you name may not have been considered directly.  You will recall that ISPs were discussed as fitting into the supplier and user sides.  In their first iteration, the BGC WG used the term suppliers just like you do, but it was realized that that there is a critical difference between a contracted supplier and a non-contracted supplier; hence the ultimate distinction between contracted parties and non-contracted parties (users).
 
As far as the first party you name, 'applicant registries in the new TLD process', they certainly do have common interests with registries but until they execute a contract with ICANN, they are still on the user side. At the same time, they are welcome to participate in the RyC as active observers.  As just one example, we welcomed dotBerlin to participate in the RyC as an active observer a long time ago.
 
'Resellers of domain names' and 'sellers of registry services based on sub-domains' also have some common interests with contracted registration service providers but they are also users of domain names.  They can easily be categorized as 'commercial' or 'noncommercial' and even though they may not fit well into existing user constituencies, they might be excellent candidates for new constituencies in the applicable stakeholder groups. 
 
In my opinion, the BGC WG recommendations appropriately tried to ensure that the improved GNSO would be flexible enough to accommodate changing constituencies within all of the stakeholder groups.  The current challenge for each of the four SGs is to design our structures to readily accommodate new constituencies.
 
Chuck


From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Philip Sheppard
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:39 AM
To: 'Council GNSO'
Subject: [council] GNSO Council Restructuring - a wrinkle in the two houses approach

For discussion
 
Some recent activity with new organisations seeking involvement inside the GNSO has opened up the thought that maybe the delineation of the two house we have currently proposed is too narrow. It was based on old thinking.
 
The two houses are:
a) users 
b) ICANN contracted parties
 
 
On reflection this division into two does NOT reflect the totality of potential stakeholders.
A division between:
a) users
b) domain name suppliers
may be a better fit.
 
The parties with no home in the proposed structure are:
a) applicant registries in the new TLD process (not yet a contract with ICANN)
b) resellers of domain names (with no contract with ICANN)
c) sellers of registry services based on sub-domains (with no contract with ICANN)
 
These three categories have little communality with true user interests (a safe place to communicate or do business)
and much more with the contracted parties ( eg want to be a registry / shared customer base / focus on registry pricing).
 
Should we not extend the scope of the contracted parties house to fit these sort of organisations inside if the desire is there ?
 
Philip