Re: set up trash for deleted messages
On Jan 14, 2008 6:28 PM, Kyle Wheeler <kyle-mutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Monday, January 14 at 05:59 PM, quoth Francis Moreau:
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> >On Jan 14, 2008 5:59 PM, John Velman <velman@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> This works for me ( in .muttrc).
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> >> # poor mans trash
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> >Honestly I'm wondering what's wrong with Trash.
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> >It seems that Trash is not really welcome in Mutt.
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> By what metric? The fact that support for it isn't built-in (added via
> two simple hooks or via the trash patch linked on the mutt webpage:
> http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/patches/#trash) or are you seeing some
> sort of wider hostility to the existence of folders with that name?
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Yes.
And "poor man's trash" comment doesn't sound that having a trash is a
clever idea. ISTR to see this comment on mutt website too.
> One way of understanding mutt's approach to email is as an email
> "viewer". Mutt, given a folder, does its level best to manage that
> folder of email. Mutt is not targetted to managing a large collection
> of many folders of email; it has no support for searching multiple
> mailboxes at the same time, displaying messages from multiple
> mailboxes, displaying messages from multiple accounts, automatically
> transferring messages from an "INBOX" to other folders when you open
> the INBOX, etc. When viewing the contents of a folder, mutt makes *no*
> assumptions about the existence of ANY other folder or account. In
> that sense, mutt approaches mail very differently from other email
> applications: mutt does it on a folder-by-folder basis, while other
> applications (e.g. Thunderbird) approach it on an account-by-account
> basis. When you think about email on an account-by-account basis,
> things like folders with special purposes makes more sense. Thus, in
> other applications, "delete means move to the account's Trash folder"
> makes sense, while in mutt "delete means mark the message as deleted"
> makes more sense (why would mutt assume that you have (or should have)
> a special folder for deleted messages? By moving the message to a
> Trash folder, you are losing the information about where it came
> from.).
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Right but is it really the point of having a Trash ?
Having a Trash is just a way to keep some no more usefull mails for an
amount of time because I can wrongly assume that I won't need them. I
really think that a lot of people have already deleted some mails then
a couple of days/weeks later wants to read them back. Who haven't done
such mistake ?
When searching for old information in Trash, I don't care if mutt
doesn't know where that email came from. I could easily decide where
to put this email if I want to keep it.
> However, you can easily make mutt behave more like an "email is an
> account" program by using hooks and other configuration features, and
> if that isn't enough, you can even patch mutt to add the functionality
> in a form you find personally palatable.
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No doubt you can do that other ways. But that was not my point.
I was wondering what was bad to have a trash...
Thanks
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Francis