Re: newbie install

[James Freer <jessejazza@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Kyle

Thanks for your reply - that has helped clarify some things. Ubuntu
8.04 repos has the mutt 1.5.17 [but as the 8.04 version is the Long
Term Support version it may well automatically replace it with the
updated version on install].
>> I have three emails addresses with googlemail.com
>
> Ah, fun.
Does that mean considerable stress and grief??

>> Reading the Mutt manual and the gentoo guide; i gather that i need to
>> install fetchmail, procmail, mutt and one of a] nbstmp, b]ssmtp, c]
>> esmtp, d] mstmp as i'm not setting up an actual mail server either of
>> these are adequate but which should i choose.
>
> Eh? No, that must be an outdated guide.
So just install mutt on it's own - there don't seem to be any
dependencies according to synaptic.
>
> Let's frame this in terms of tasks: you need to be able to read your
> email, and you need to be able to *send* email.
>
> Sending email has gotten much easier; you *can* use
> nbsmtp/ssmtp/esmtp/msmtp or any of the other variants, but the 1.5.x
> versions of mutt can also simply send mail themselves, as long as you
> have a server to relay through (e.g. your ISP or google's mail
> servers). All you need to do is ensure that your version of mutt has
> been compiled with smtp support (the default Ubuntu package probably
> has) and then add the following to your muttrc:
>
>     set smtp_url="smtp://user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@smtp.gmail.com/"
>
> (and replace "user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" with one of your actual addresses)
>
> The other task is to be able to *read* email. You can do this lots of
> different ways, but the simplest is to simply use mutt to read the
> messages via IMAP (you don't NEED fetchmail or procmail or any of the
> others, though you certainly *can* use them if you like). You DO need
> to enable IMAP on your Gmail accounts first, though (see
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=75725&ctx=sibling).
> The appropriate mutt setting would be something like this:
>
>     set folder="imaps://user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@imap.gmail.com/"
>     set spoolfile="=INBOX"
I have set up IMAP gmail with Thunderbird and wondered about POP and
SMTP. Gmail has an odd way of handling IMAP which i'm not sure about.
Using as webmail Gmail has an Inbox, Sent and All Mail box - when
using Thunderbird in IMAP all incoming mail remains in the Inbox, then
has to be archived manually [by going back to webmail] to put it in
the All Mail box. Gmail is very clever with its conversations feature
and this is why it has this All Mail box i guess but i didn't find a
away of archiving the Inbox to All Mail - Gmail weren't much help when
i raised a support ticket with them. I did use POP and SMTP again with
Thunderbird and that worked well - emptying the Inbox but one looses
the conversation feature [iirc]. So i was thinking along the POP -
SMTP route this time. Any gmail users on here who can advise?

> There's more work to be done to efficiently handle all three accounts
> at the same time, and a lot of it depends on how exactly you want mutt
> to behave.
So what do i do... all i want [i think] is to have the mail collected
from each account in turn [a bit like Thunderbird used to do] and put
in separate email address folders.

thanks
james [uk]