Re: [ga] Got a virus, Ken?
- To: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Got a virus, Ken?
- From: Don Brown <donbrown_l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:06:52 -0500
- Cc: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxx" <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Netcom Abuse <abuse@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Ken Stubbs (3rd E-mail address)" <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Ken Stubbs <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Ken Stubbs (Yahoo address)" <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Reply-to: Don Brown <donbrown_l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Please read the following page:
http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_BAGLE.J&VSect=T
It could have even been sent from your machine or my box. The only
possible way to determine the actual origin, is to expose the e-mail
headers and track down the originating IP address.
I was obviously wrong, though, in assuming that you should have known
that. I'll try not to let that happen again. :-)
Thanks,
Wednesday, April 7, 2004, 1:02:45 AM, Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
JW> Don and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,
JW> No Don, your a good fellow, but in this instance your wrong, I afraid...
JW> Ken should have taken adequate precautions. He obviously didn't
JW> or didn't soon enough... Given his past and lengthy and voluminously
JW> documented behaviors on various forms, leaves in some question
JW> the cause for this possible virus created spoofing of Ken's Email
JW> address... Hence Richards correctly question of a subject line...
JW> Don Brown wrote:
>> Just knock it off, please. It was a forging virus which started this
>> thread, inappropriately. Stubbs wasn't responsible and with all the
>> designations on Jeff William's sig line, he should have known that.
>>
>> Many have questioned Jeff William's mental health as well and even
>> banned him from certain lists. Stop, Jeff - you are not getting any
>> mileage from this attack. In fact, you look silly.
>>
>> Whether I'm on Stubbs' side or not is not the issue, either.
>>
>> It is, what it is. Jeff, just stop and do something more
>> constructive.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tuesday, April 6, 2004, 8:26:37 PM, Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> JW> Richard, Ken, and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
>> JW> stakeholders/users,
>>
>> JW> Richard, Ken in and of himself IS a virus of sorts. Given his long
>> JW> standing
>> JW> dismissive and errant ML behaviors on many forums before you became
>> JW> involved, Mr. Stubbs has frequently displayed a number of varying and
>> JW> inconsistent attitudes that have left many to question his overall
>> JW> mental
>> JW> health from time to time. Hence I would question if he EMAIL you
>> JW> kindly provided from Ken was a virus at all and was not intentional.
>> JW> In any event I would be sure to inform the proper authorities in the
>> JW> UK of your receipt of it, and file an official legal complaint, lest
>> JW> you desire to continue to receive such fraudulent emails from one
>> JW> of several other of Ken Stubbs Email addresses in the future...
>>
>> JW> Richard Henderson wrote:
>>
>> >> I know I've sometimes expressed concerns about Ken Stubbs
>> >> association with ICANN and how I wondered if that created a conflict
>> >> of interest at the time that he headed up Afilias's (successful)
>> >> application for the .info registry... but... I think this virus-laden
>> >> message I received today was probably sent unwittingly from your
>> >> computer, and I just want to advise you and the members of this list
>> >> who may also be in your address book that you seem to have a virus Ken
>> >> which is sending out very plausible messages to people making them
>> >> think they are about to lose their e-mail accounts for improper use
>> >> and tempting them to 'open up' the accompanying document. A phone call
>> >> to my e-mail provider confirmed that this message purporting to come
>> >> from them was not from them at all. So please be careful if any of you
>> >> receive a message like this one below:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -------------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Return-Path: <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >>
>> >> Received: from [snip]for <richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>> >>
>> >> Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:33:05 +0100
>> >>
>> >> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:34:16 +0100
>> >>
>> >> To: richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> Subject: E-mail account security warning.
>> >>
>> >> From: management@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >> Message-ID: <snip >
>> >>
>> >> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> >>
>> >> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
>> >>
>> >> boundary="--------snip "
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------[snip]
>> >>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear user of Ntlworld.com,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Your e-mail account will be disabled because of improper using in
>> >> next
>> >>
>> >> three days, if you are still wishing to use it, please, resign
>> >> your
>> >>
>> >> account information.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Advanced details can be found in attached file.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >>
>> >> The Ntlworld.com team
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------[attached file obviously snipped]
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> JW> Regards,
>>
>> JW> --
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JW> Regards,
JW> --
JW> Jeffrey A. Williams
JW> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
JW> "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
JW> Pierre Abelard
JW> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
JW> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
JW> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
JW> United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
JW> ===============================================================
JW> Updated 1/26/04
JW> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
JW> IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
JW> E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
JW> Registered Email addr with the USPS
JW> Contact Number: 214-244-4827
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