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Re: [At-Large] Respectful Online Communication and Behavior

Frank,

I agree, there is nothing strange or naïve in such expectations. It even should 
be normal situation in normal international organization with public 
participation like ICANN is or is intended to be. However, your message reminds 
me of the announcement of discovery of America in the 21st century or sudden 
reviviscence of Sleeping Beauty.

People here have been loudly pointing this out for years in order to balance 
the influence of pro-public and commercial personal interests within the ICANN 
structures and among ICANN staffers. The overall official approach is 
half-hearted and almost ineffective burdened by hidden fear and untenable 
respect towards 'authorities' allowing them further smooth exploitation of 
ICANN mission for their own sake. In every normal healthy public-based society 
people like that, especially in high positions, would be eliminated in few 
days; in ICANN they are sometimes almost glorified. The public participation 
does not mean exuberant conversations at 'low' level while tacitly respecting 
the money-addiction taboo by which decisions of high-level decision makers are 
eventually driven. ICANN is not a private enterprise nor is yet another 
American dream how to make fortune at any price. It is an international 
non-profit organization with its core values and accountability. Its mission is 
a service to people in the first place.

The time is about to change and Paul Twomey has already understood this. This 
could be a nice opportunity also for some others to think over it.

Dominik


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Subject: Re: [At-Large] Respectful Online Communication and Behavior

To Karl and Carlos,

I don't believe that there is anything strange or naïve in the expectation that 
participants in an organization which represents a global community would 
conduct themselves at a level of discourse and behaviour that includes 
respectful communication. This is an international forum for debate and 
discussion, and while no one has the reasonable expectation of Platonic debate, 
neither do participants want to be involved in name calling and behaviours 
which more closely resemble a school yard at recess than an international 
cooperative effort.

There is no proposal that any party not vigorously pursue the advocacy of their 
own position, only that they do so in a manner that is respectful of others.

Dr. Frank Fowlie, DCR
Ombudsman

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
Marina del Rey
California, USA, 90292

tel: +310-823-9358
fax: +310-823-8649

www.icannombudsman.org

The Values of this Office are:
-Respect for Diversity;
-Excellence in Ombudsmanship;
-Professionalism;
-Confidentiality;
-Impartiality;
-and Independence.

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From: carlos aguirre
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 06:56:42 -0700
To: At-Large Worldwide<at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [At-Large] Respectful Online Communication and Behavior

Dear Karl:

Yes, this document sounds to me some (at least) "naive". Specialy at this 
moment of ICANN history.

When I decided reply this, for an instant I thought to say respectfully another 
strong word, but then I thought in the diversity and cultures and point of view 
different.

In my oppinion we need to see the reality and say in a clear manner how is it. 
whatever being the words uses.

greetings


Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
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> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:18:38 -0700
> From: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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> ccnso-council@xxxxxxxxx; louie@xxxxxxxxxxx; ceo@xxxxxxxxxxx; 
> cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx; jun@xxxxxxxxxx; steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx; 
> frank.fowlie@xxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; policy@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [At-Large] Respectful Online Communication and Behavior
>
>
> > ICANN's Ombudsman, Frank Fowlie, recently posted a web page on Respectful
> > Online Communication and Behavior
>
> I must say that I found that to be a rather strange document.
>
> It posits ICANN as some fantasy world in which disinterested
> philosophers discuss and debate.
>
> That is in hard conflict with the reality of ICANN as a political
> cauldron in which deeply antagonistic interests contest with one another
> for power and profit.
>
> Many actors within ICANN could be in violation of the ethical
> requirements of their professions were they to trim the sails of their
> advocacy on behalf of their clients to conform with that document.
>
> --karl--
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