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Re: [At-Large] Respectful Online Communication and Behavior



Alas at last-

This document may be interpreted in many ways, and may provoke divergent
views from people's own experiences.   The interpretation is a cross between
censorship and or learn to speak/act well.   I would chose to take
the later, as we have been a victims of schoolish behaviour and nepotism of
ICANN staff, which I hope  is not censorship then if I  have to express
that.

Sophia


On 5/12/09, Frank Fowlie <frank.fowlie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> To Karl and Carlos,
>
> I don't believe that there is anything strange or naïve in the expectation
> that participants in an organization which represents a global community
> would conduct themselves at a level of discourse and behaviour that includes
> respectful communication. This is an international forum for debate and
> discussion, and while no one has the reasonable expectation of Platonic
> debate, neither do participants want to be involved in name calling and
> behaviours which more closely resemble a school yard at recess than an
> international cooperative effort.
>
> There is no proposal that any party not vigorously pursue the advocacy of
> their own position, only that they do so in a manner that is respectful of
> others.
>
>
>
> Dr. Frank Fowlie, DCR
> Ombudsman
>
> The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
> Marina del Rey
> California, USA, 90292
>
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> The Values of this Office are:
> -Respect for Diversity;
> -Excellence in Ombudsmanship;
> -Professionalism;
> -Confidentiality;
> -Impartiality;
> -and Independence.
>
> ________________________________
> From: carlos aguirre
> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 06:56:42 -0700
> To: At-Large Worldwide<at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [At-Large] Respectful Online Communication and Behavior
>
> Dear Karl:
>
> Yes, this document sounds to me some (at least) "naive". Specialy at this
> moment of ICANN history.
>
> When I decided reply this, for an instant I thought to say respectfully
> another strong word, but then I thought in the diversity and cultures and
> point of view different.
>
> In my oppinion we need to see the reality and say in a clear manner how is
> it. whatever being the words uses.
>
> greetings
>
>
> Carlos Dionisio Aguirre
> abogado - Sarmiento 71 - 4to. 18 Cordoba - Argentina -
> *54-351-424-2123 / 423-5423
> www.derechoytecnologia.com.ar<http://www.sitioderecho.com.ar/>
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>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:18:38 -0700
> > From: karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > CC: avri@xxxxxxx; janis.karklins@xxxxxxxxx; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
> ccnso-council@xxxxxxxxx; louie@xxxxxxxxxxx; ceo@xxxxxxxxxxx;
> cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx; jun@xxxxxxxxxx; steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx;
> frank.fowlie@xxxxxxxxx; liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; policy@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [At-Large] Respectful Online Communication and Behavior
> >
> >
> > > ICANN's Ombudsman, Frank Fowlie, recently posted a web page on
> Respectful
> > > Online Communication and Behavior
> >
> > I must say that I found that to be a rather strange document.
> >
> > It posits ICANN as some fantasy world in which disinterested
> > philosophers discuss and debate.
> >
> > That is in hard conflict with the reality of ICANN as a political
> > cauldron in which deeply antagonistic interests contest with one another
> > for power and profit.
> >
> > Many actors within ICANN could be in violation of the ethical
> > requirements of their professions were they to trim the sails of their
> > advocacy on behalf of their clients to conform with that document.
> >
> > --karl--
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