Re: Several Mutt usage question
Kyle,
You are absolutely right!
Terminal is incapable of handling these chars...
[pgrinberg@panther ~]$ perl -e 'print "\xD0\x91\n"'
п▒
[pgrinberg@panther ~]$ perl -e 'print "\xD7\xAA\n"'
в╙
[pgrinberg@panther ~]$
Do you know how to set it to use proper fonts?
As I said I have these....
[root@panther pgrinberg]# cat /etc/sysconfig/i18n
LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
Btw, thank you for the explanation .... I feel I really learned something today
:) Liked Perl checks! :)
Best,
Paul
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Kyle Wheeler
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Subject: Re: Several Mutt usage question
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On Monday, July 13 at 12:41 PM, quoth Paul Grinberg:
>Thank you,
>
>so far I removed charset definition, and it started to show this one. So
>
>Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:19:23 +0400
>From: п░п╩п╣п╨я│п╟пҐпЄя─ п⌠я─п╦пҐп╠п╣я─пЁ <john@xxxxx>
>Subject: Re: Contacts
>
>піп╣п╩я┐я▌
Interesting! That shows up as jibberish to me, but we're obviously
making some progress.
>[pgrinberg@panther ~]$ locale -a | egrep "ru|he"
>hebrew
>he_IL
>he_IL.iso88598
>he_IL.utf8
>ru_RU
>ru_RU.iso88595
>ru_RU.koi8r
>ru_RU.utf8
>russian
>ru_UA
>ru_UA.koi8u
>ru_UA.utf8
Huh; so your system prefers the "utf8" style, but your LANG uses
"UTF-8"? I wonder if the difference is mucking anything up... I'm
guessing that your system supports en_US.utf8, right? Try setting LANG
to that.
>Passed on perl trick....
>[pgrinberg@panther ~]$ perl -e ""
That's always a good sign.
>Now I am thinking....maybe it lacks fonts?
Actually, my next thought (assuming that changing LANG to en_US.utf8
doesn't fix things) is to question your terminal. What are you using?
For example, if you use an xterm, for some reason the utf-8 mode is
not enabled by default. But they usually provide a wrapper script
called "uxterm" that will launch xterm with the proper flags to enable
utf-8 mode. That makes it so that your terminal can recognize the
characters it is being asked to display and can look for the correct
glyph in the font that it's using.
If your terminal is set up so that it can recognize the utf-8
characters that mutt is emitting, then after that we'll want to look
at your fonts.
Here's a way of testing whether your terminal and/or fonts can handle
Russian characters:
perl -e 'print "\xD0\x91\n"'
That should print a single Russian character (I don't know what the
name of it is, but it looks like a lowercase b with a flat line across
the top).
And here's a test for Hebrew:
perl -e 'print "\xD7\xAA\n"'
That should print out a Tav (I think that's what it's called).
If those don't work, then your terminal and/or your font may not be
working. If those DO work, but mutt doesn't, then there's probably
something wrong with your terminal library (e.g. ncurses) and you'll
probably want to ensure that mutt is using ncursesw instead of plain
old ncurses (that's the ncurses variant that supports utf-8).
~Kyle
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