Re: Charset issue?

[Kyle Wheeler <kyle-mutt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On Thursday, May  3 at 09:04 AM, quoth Roland Hill:
>> On Thursday, May  3 at 08:10 AM, quoth Roland Hill:
>>> I thought I had found a solution in the archives and added TRANSLIT 
>>> as 
>>> follows:
>
>>> set charset="iso-8859-1//TRANSLIT"
>
>>> .....but this hasn't fixed the problem.
>
>>> Can anyone offer a solution or point me somewhere where I can work it out?
>
>> What is the charset of the email you're looking at? It may be 
>> mislabelled (which you may be able to use charset_hook to fix).
>
> utf-8

Hmm, then it's *definitely* mislabelled. REAL utf-8 encodes the single 
curly quote as THREE bytes: 0xE2 0x80 0x99 (or, in mutt's octal 
format: \342 \200 \231). What you got there (\204, or, in hex, 0xB4) 
maps to the grave character (´) in Latin1 (aka ISO-8859-1), which 
looks kinda-sorta like a curly-quote in the appropriate direction 
(though it's really a rather inappropriate character to use there). 
The other character you mentioned, \250 (or 0xA8) maps to the umlaut 
dots (¨) in Latin1, which looks ever-so-slightly like double-quote 
marks (but again, totally inappropriate).

I'm not sure what other characters those might actually be referring 
to, but given the visual similarity to the characters they *should* be 
referring to, I think that's probably pretty close to what's 
happening.

The next question is: what can you do about it? Fixing them, and 
replacing them with the correct characters may not be possible, but 
getting them to display *at all* can be done, I think. A charset hook 
could help... but you don't want to break ALL utf-8 mails. Perhaps 
something like this (haven't tested it, and it would break other 
charset-hooks you may be using):

     message-hook . "unhook charset-hook"
     message-hook "~f thatguy" "charset-hook utf-8 iso-8859-1"

Alain may have a better solution, though.

~Kyle
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