* Stephan Seitz <nur-ab-sal@xxxxxx> wrote: <rant> > >It does mean that, if you can communicate just as effectively > >without using them, but using them excludes people unfairly. This > >is exactly Think about what he said. The point is that you are allowed use all the fancy new stuff on your system, but you should not put a burden on people to keep up. It's a fine principle that will outlive any standard you might want to argue with. > I will tell it the people at debian-japanese to use ASCII even when > writing Japanese. I think they will understand that it is completly > unfair to use an encoding that can?$B!Gt be read in all locale. Oh please... I really fail to see why you seem to like rather extreme viewpoints to base your (mostly far-fetched) arguments (analogies) on. Sometimes I even wonder if you deliberately don't want to understand, or just like to twist. This is an English speaking mailing list about mutt *users*, focussing on that might actually help, in my not so humble opinion. Back in fidonet times, there was a saying: I don't care what you do on your system but make sure it doesn't annoy others. Compromise. If you want to make a point of switching debilan systems worldwide to UTF-8 or whatever for the sake of genuine world peace, please do so on a debilan mailing list. Maybe they already are. I do not care. If you want to switch all linux systems to UTF-8 take over the common-sense using world. I do not care. You might even want to bring some Japanese along for they seem to like you pulling them into this shiny matter of localising one's system to the public's needs instead of what common sense tells us: localise to one's own needs. in short: locale = own system. mailing list = common ground. just use common sense to cover it. Even God did not use UTF-8, he made Moses use ASCII. <hint>There was a reason.</hint> If in doubt, use ASCII. If you want to reach as many people as possible, use ASCII. etc. I think God wrote that draft in UTF-8 but he had the brains to actually apply a send_charset kludge so that Moses understood what he was to write, so that the vast majority of readers unterstood what he wrote. By doing that God got all the suckers asking about the special meaning of those strange ?$B!G characters in his commandments off his back. Clever guy, isn't he? Which leads me to the conclusion that the 10 Commandments as we know them in fact are only a revision... *cough, Scotty, now would be a good time* Kyle, you God of UTF-8, what about applying that send_charset kludge, hm? Stephan, you knight of UTF-8, what about early retirement? you still could do consulting... Btw, this is EOD for me. Enough ranting. </rant> -- left blank, right bald
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