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Re: [PATCH] fix indent_string handling with format=flowed



Hi,

On Tue, Oct 16, 2007, Rocco Rutte wrote:
>
> My main concern is still that in a discussion you'll loose all f=f benefits 
> if there's only one person doing a format=fixed reply that turns all flowed 
> into fixed lines. For example, in this discussion between us you would have 
> made messages harder to read for me if you did trim spaces though nothing 
> changes for you at all. Why would you want do that?

Yeah, I see what your goal is. And I agree it is a good one.
However, I think interoperability with plain old MUAs is
more important, as it is what RFC 3676 is all about.

> For the other problems, I think we're slowly reaching the roots of our 
> disagreement, i.e. we need a referee and/or other opinions... :)

I think I used the wrong strategy. Instead of giving you the
solution I'll try to show you the problem.

Basically mutt interoperates fine with other mutts, with any mix
of $text_flowed=yes and $text_flowed=no. But there's a problem
interacting with plain old MUAs (in the following example I
used mailx with indentprefix="> ").

I created a text=flowed message in mutt, replied in mailx,
replied in mutt, replied in mailx, replied in mutt.
The result is:

(mutt screen shot, not raw message content)

  format=flowed:

  > format=fixed:
  >
  >> format=flowed:
  >>
  >> >format=fixed:
  >> >
  >> >> format=flowed:
  >> >>
  >> >> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut sed
  >> tortor >> nec mi gravida aliquet. Morbi orci. Vestibulum orci leo,
  >> blandit quis, >> consequat non, lacinia mattis, dolor. Mauris pulvinar
  >> hendrerit nisi. >> Duis vel velit sed sapien facilisis congue. Vestibulum
  >> quis neque. Donec >> non ligula a libero vestibulum aliquam. Morbi libero
  >> nibh, iaculis >> vitae, viverra in, sagittis a, felis. Aenean eget felis
  >> a massa auctor >> eleifend. Vestibulum a pede eget neque commodo
  >> sagittis. Etiam id metus >> et massa consequat tempus.

In mailx the message still looks OK (see below), but one further reply
by mutt would have mangled the message for good.

(mailx screen shot, the raw message content still has the trailing spaces)

  format=flowed:

  >format=fixed:
  >
  >> format=flowed:
  >>
  >> >format=fixed:
  >> >
  >> >> format=flowed:
  >> >>
  >> >> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit. Ut sed tortor
  >> >> nec mi gravida aliquet. Morbi orci. Vestibulum orci leo, blandit quis,
  >> >> consequat non, lacinia mattis, dolor. Mauris pulvinar hendrerit nisi.
  >> >> Duis vel velit sed sapien facilisis congue. Vestibulum quis neque. Donec
  >> >> non ligula a libero vestibulum aliquam. Morbi libero nibh, iaculis
  >> >> vitae, viverra in, sagittis a, felis. Aenean eget felis a massa auctor
  >> >> eleifend. Vestibulum a pede eget neque commodo sagittis. Etiam id metus
  >> >> et massa consequat tempus.


If you agree that there is a problem, then please fix ;-)


Johannes