[IP] more on : How to fly in the U.S. without ID
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From: Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: October 7, 2006 1:10:28 PM EDT
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Subject: Re: [IP] more on : How to fly in the U.S. without ID
David Farber wrote:
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From: Dewayne Hendricks <dewayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: October 7, 2006 11:39:36 AM EDT
To: Dewayne-Net Technology List <dewayne-net@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Dewayne-Net] re: How to fly in the U.S. without ID
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[Note: This comment comes from a reader of Farber's IP list. So I
guess then the question is will this sage advice still work today?
Anyone out there want to give it a try and report back? <g> DLH]
It works, and it doesn't work. There are folks who rarely, if ever,
show ID when flying. And it won't work for international flights.
But for domestic ones, you can get a surprising distance without
showing a person any ID.
The airlines have stopped using a non-existent federal law as a cover-
up for their desire to have people with ID, and they simply require
it as a corporate rule. You can, of course, buy an e-Ticket, check
in at home, and avoid talking to an airline person. In that case,
you go straight to TSA without showing ID.
But that is a commercial transaction between you and the airlines and
is really separate from the TSA/Federal Gov't part of things. If you
can find an airline that will let you fly without ID or under an
assumed name (VIPs do this not infrequently), you can get a boarding
pass which is your 'ticket' to get into the terminal. I often get
to the TSA lines without having shown ID to a person just because of
the automation in place in airports.
But TSA is now separate from the airlines, and that's an entirely
different gauntlet and rule set.
TSA doesn't seem to require ID. Which means that if you can get your
boarding pass, you can go to the TSA station, declare "I do not have
ID," and it's just as if you have SSSS (the "selectee" sign) stamped
on your boarding pass. They treat you with extra care, but you are
allowed into the boarding area.
I have a good friend who flies out of Las Vegas a lot at times when
the lines are very very long. In LAS (as in most airports), they
have a special line for selectees which is VERY short. Thus, he
simply goes to the front of the line, declares he has no ID, and they
handle him in a few moments (rather than the 20 to 40 minute line
that everyone else endures).
jms
From: David Wagner <daw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: October 7, 2006 8:19:38 AM PDT
To: s.schear@xxxxxxxxxxx, dewayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: gnu@xxxxxxxx
Subject: [IP] How to fly in the U.S. without ID
Actually, that essay is at least 5 or 6 years old and has nothing to
do with Gilmore's law suit. It predates 9/11 and completely predates
John Gilmore's law suit. I remember reading it back when I was
researching this stuff in, oh, 1999 or so.
Weblog at: <http://weblog.warpspeed.com>
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