[IP] more on stature?

[David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@xxxxxxxx>
Date: September 26, 2006 7:38:27 PM EDT
To: "W. Craig Trader" <craig@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: dave@xxxxxxxxxx, lauren@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] more on stature?

McCain is viewed as a "nutty" Senator by many Republicans,  
particularly by Rove, et al.

The same lack of "stature" seems to apply to the various flag-rank  
retired military professionals who have resigned quietly, rather than  
participate in the fiasco.

I've thus concluded (as I noted) that stature no longer means what it  
used to mean.  What we used to call character is now viewed by the  
media and by nattering nabobs of Neoconservatism as lunatic treason.

W. Craig Trader wrote:
> I would argue that John McCain has the stature to speak knowingly  
> about
> the usefulness and effects of torture -- and he's saying that  
> torture is
> wrong and does not meet our national needs or objectives.  How much  
> more
> stature do you need?
>
> - Craig -
>
>
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@xxxxxxxx>
> > Date: September 26, 2006 1:28:21 PM EDT
> > To: lauren@xxxxxxxxxx, David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: stature?
> >
> > Lauren -
> >
> > Forgive me for laughing.   You want somebody of "stature" to stand up
> > to the bullies and a**holes who can't see how torture degrades them
> > in the eyes of the world?
> >
> > The problem is that "stature" today means a well-known person who has
> > made a career ov being an opportunistic suck-up to the rich and
> > powerful.  Someone who lacks personal courage and builds his
> > reputation by paying image consultants like people used to pay
> > hairdressers.
> >
> > Being saved by a coward seems unlikely.
> >
> >
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