Begin forwarded message:
From: "Brock N. Meeks" <bmeeks@xxxxxxx>
Date: June 15, 2006 5:58:14 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] Who they're spying on DO READ
As abhorrent as the TSA list is, I think it's also imperative that
when we
go to battle over such things that we at least get the terms
straight so
that we know what we're debating.
I can guarantee you that Mr. Anonymous' wife was not and IS NOT on
the "Do
No Fly" list. I will put up $5,000 on a bet to back up my
statement if Mr.
Anon wants to take me up on it.
You see, there are TWO lists that come into play here, one is the
hardcore
"do not fly" list. A person appearing on that list WILL NOT FLY;
they are
known, criminal threats to aviation security and would be jailed if
they are
caught.
The second list is much more nefarious because it catches so many
people in
its net, such as Mr. Anon's wife. TSA refers to this list as the
"selectee
list." This is the list that has caught several famous people in
its web
because their names are the same or similar to those that appear on
the
selectee list.
I wrote a piece about this for MSNBC just about a year ago called
"Faces of
the No Fly List" (and of course, the headline writer was fudging, too,
because no on in my story was actually on the "no fly" list).
You can read it here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8705746/
On 6/15/06 3:09 PM, "David Farber" <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: Anonymous
Date: June 15, 2006
Subject: Re: Who they're spying on
There are many unknown consequences from the recent laws
circumventing privacy and security constraints on the government.
For example, the TSA "Do Not Fly" (DNF) list is being used by law
enforcement agencies to capture anyone with an outstanding want or
warrant. As we all know TSA will not tell you why your name is on
the list. Moreover, they will not say where the names come from that
are on the list.
My wife ended up on the list, which lead to a 2+ hour wait to be
cleared at the airport. During that time we talked with several TSA
people and one police officer. After TSA finally decided she could
fly, they invoked the standard procedure to clear someone which was
to have a local police officer run a warrant/want check. I mentioned
to the TSA officer that the DNF list sounds like a good way to
capture anyone wanted for a crime. He said yes, and I believe he said
that some law enforcement organizations were putting many names on
the list.
I asked Dave to make this posting anonymous because after this
problem with the DNF list, which went on for several months/trips, my
wife and I are much less willing to publicly confront our government.
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