[IP] more on  Mid-level military officers on responsibility for Iraq
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From: EEkid@xxxxxxx
Date: April 24, 2006 2:16:53 AM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] Mid-level military officers on responsibility for Iraq
Mr. Farber,
Unfortunately, I think the writer of this article doesn't really  
understand the problem.  Prior to the Iraq war, many of our nation's  
military officers were clueless to the realities of the battle  
field.  Sure, some of the most senior officers knew, but they became  
senior officers because at some point in time, they became  
politicians in uniform.  This article brings to mind a day I had a  
couple years before 9/11.  I was attending a Marine Static Display,  
which is a display of military hardware.  I stood there shooting the  
breeze with an officer and we were talking about how great the  
Humvee's were.  I asked if the composite body panels where bullet  
proof and he said no.  I was a bit surprised that they didn't take  
such a rugged design to the next level with some light Kevlar armor.   
He added, that Humvee's aren't used in areas where fighting occurs.  
He made some comment about the only time "jeeps" are on a battle  
field is in the movies. Immediately my thoughts traveled back in time  
to a family friend who was severely wounded in Vietnam while driving  
a jeep down a dirt road.  He was shot with an AK-47.  This wasn't on  
a battle field. We moved on to another display which featured an M-16  
with a third generation night vision scope.  He commented that the  
technology was new and only available to the military..  I was a bit  
shocked that he didn't know this exact same scope was available on  
the internet. In fact, I later printed out an ad from the internet  
and gave it to him later. The display also had several confiscated  
AK-47's and he commented that they were worthless at a hundred yards  
because they were so inaccurate.  Well, I've personally shot many  
types of AK-47's from all over Europe and Asia and every single one  
was accurate enough to put a bullet on a pie plate at 100 yards with  
ease.  I walked away wondering what would happen if we ever had to go  
to war.
In addition to this experience, I once had a conversation with an  
officer regarding our reliance on very expensive, slow to produce,  
high tech weaponry.  I commented that we could never fight a large  
scale protracted war with these weapons because we simply couldn't  
build them fast enough.  His response was we will never fight another  
large scale war.  I said, what happens if we were to go to war with  
China?  He said, we will never let that happen because we know we  
can't win without using nuclear weapons.  I walked away stunned.
I'm not criticizing  our military here.  Let me make an analogy.   
Suppose you have an engineer who graduated from a good engineering  
school.  He then hangs out with other engineers from other good  
schools.  Yet, none of them have ever designed anything.  After a  
decade or so, they're suddenly given a very complex, large scale and  
taxing engineering project to do in a short amount of time.  They are  
going to make mistakes and miscalculations, we as humans can learn  
from books but we learn the most about our environment by doing.   
Sure, I know our military constantly trains, but I bet they didn't  
train in an environment with real roadside IED's and car bombs in  
public places on a regular basis.
Jerry
In a message dated 4/23/2006 7:09:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
dave@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
There is a fascinating article in this morning's New York Times,  
based on interviews with mid-level officers and others, suggesting  
widespread discontent and debate within the military over the failure  
of  senior officers to give candid advice to Rumseld and the  
Adminsitration about the reasoins why the invasion of Iraq would be a  
mistake.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/23/washington/23military.html? 
hp&ex=1145851200&en=307b714052e595e5&ei=5094&partner=homepage
Officers making such comments as,
"This is about the moral bankruptcy of general officers who lived  
through the Vietnam era yet refused to advise our civilian leadership  
properly," said one Army major in the Special Forces who has served  
two combat tours. "I can only hope that my generation does better  
someday."  and
"The history I will take away from this is that the current crop of  
generals failed to stand up and say, 'We cannot do this mission.'  
They confused the cultural can-do attitude with their  
responsibilities as leaders to delay the start of the war until we  
had an adequate force. I think the backlash against the general  
officers will be seen in the resignation of officers" who might  
otherwise have stayed in uniform."
There was also an interesting angle on Condoleeza Rice's famous  
comment about "thousands of errors," casting it in a light I had not  
considered, as a slap at the military and a deflection of  
responsibility for the Administration's own failures:
The debates are fueled by the desire to mete out blame for the  
situation in Iraq, a drawn-out war that has taken many military lives  
and has no clear end in sight. A midgrade officer who has served two  
tours in Iraq said a number of his cohorts were angered last month  
when Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said that "tactical errors,  
a thousand of them, I am sure," had been made in Iraq.
"We have not lost a single tactical engagement on the ground in  
Iraq," the officer said, noting that the definition of tactical  
missions is specific movements against an enemy target. "The mistakes  
have all been at the strategic and political levels."
Paul Alan Levy
Public Citizen Litigation Group
1600 - 20th Street, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20009
(202) 588-1000
http://www.citizen.org/litigation
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