Begin forwarded message: From: Bob Frankston <Bob2-19-0501@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: April 17, 2006 4:29:17 PM EDT To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx, ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxCc: "'Frode Hegland'" <frode@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Russell Nelson <nelson@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [IP] more on OECD on employment protective lawsAnd the Brits haven't stopped - how much of the world's fiber capacity is
kept off the market to assure scarcity so C&W can maintain its prices?With all the talk of debt relief wouldn't make far more sense to make the
capacity available to those economies?A new book "The Box" is about how container shipped changed world economics
because renegades were able to bypass the old guard. It's much harder to lay fiber as long as its treated like the prerogative of robber barons rather than a public necessity. As I pointed out in http://www.frankston.com/?name=AssuringScarcity the industry (in this case cellular) has an explicit policy to maintain control. Until we recognize that bits are content are unrelated will confuse monopolies with real businesses (http://www.frankston.com/?name=TelecomPhrase) Alas, the WTO is more likely to preserve the fiction of tele/com than to create opportunity. Perhaps the World Bank and others may want to voice their concerns. -----Original Message----- From: David Farber [mailto:dave@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 15:26 To: ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [IP] more on OECD on employment protective laws Begin forwarded message: From: Frode Hegland <frode@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: April 17, 2006 11:47:03 AM EDT To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [IP] OECD on employment protective laws On 11 Apr 2006, at 19:35, David Farber wrote:
Russ Nelson writes: Globalization is nothing new ... and during that time wages have risen, not fallen
Though of course not uniformly. Some place win (like the British Empire being efficient enough to make cloth that they could ship them back to India and pretty much eradicate the local industry. (This made the British India Company more powerful than the British Empire for a while! Yes, even the British Empire was an international corporate affair, as much as a government expansion). This of course happens often, to degrees. And it swings back and forth between regions on the rise, and regions on a plateu. But when the winners become monopolistic, this breaks down. Within a capitalistic country regulation is need to keep large companies from becoming monopolies. There is no such regulation on a world-wide basis, only the WTO which is a representative of the monopolistic countries, not of all countries. One example of this is the monopolistic trade barriers the US and Europe have against Africa, which removes five times the amount of potential trade income than Africa receives in aid (please help me if you can remember who pointed this out, I cannot find the name right now, but it was not a hippe, it was someone from the World Bank, I think). In fact, the trade imbalance with Africa is so bad that locally grown produce is more expensive in many places, than US imports due to US subsidies. Please, this is my current understanding, if anyone would like to correct any of this, please do, my position is just that you can't have a purely capitalist system without some regulation to keep monopolies from happening so globalization, in its current form is not as much capitalism run far, than good old fashioned monopolies. Hey we could call it cross-border fascism maybe? BTW, I am a firm internationalist, so pro-globalization arguments I agree with in general, let's just discuss how to improve the outcome for more people, instead of simple pro/con arguments. End rant. Frode Hegland ceo The Hyperwords Company www.hyperwords.net ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as BobIP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ipArchives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/
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