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Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:37:27 -0500
From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
CC: ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, jonathan@xxxxxxxxx
References: <44088164.2000207@xxxxxxxxxx>
We'll stop defending ourselves by "mocking people of faith" when the
religious right stops trying to force their beliefs on the rest of us,
as in the campaign to undermine science in our schools.
Lee
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 12:48 -0500, Dave Farber wrote:
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> Church and State" ...
> Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:13:31 -0500
> From: jonathan@xxxxxxxxx
> To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Dave,
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> It's interesting to see the continuing reaction from the political left to
> the fact that people of faith have finally organized themselves around
> their values. Why shouldn't Alito thank the people who stood by him? He
> didn't say, "and by the way, I'm planning to vote against Roe V. Wade
> tomorrow afternoon as a thank you to you for sending me here." He said,
> thanks for praying for me and standing by me. Where I come from, that's
> called being polite. When your friends stand by you, you thank them.
>
> Looking for a right-wing consipracy under every thank you note and mocking
> people of faith (the SNL quote at the bottom of the sender's e-mail) has
> largely gotten the left where it is today - marginalized, losing elections
> all over the country and left only to scream shrilly about the American
> Taliban.
>
> Good people all over America see that sort of carping for what it really
> is - sore-loserism from a group that appears to have no cohesive national
> agenda other than to call most people on the right Nazis, to hope (not
> even silently, but publicly) for failure in Iraq and to repeat the Howard
> Dean scream every time George Bush's name is mentioned.
>
> Not a very compelling vision for a national party...
>
> --
> Jonathan Goldstein, Esq.
> c: 215-266-5948
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> Dave Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 03/03/2006 10:03 AM
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> Subject: The Constitution doesn't actually SAY "Separation of Church and
> State" ...
> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:48:11 -0500
> From: Randall <rvh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: JMG <johnmacsgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Dave <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> http://htdaw.blogsource.com/post.mhtml?post_id=267153
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> To Dobson, With Love, Sam Scalito ...
> Thursday, March 02, 2006 at 10:45 PM EST
> Alito Sends James Dobson a Valentine
> HuffingtonPost.com
>
> During his broadcast today, Focus on the Family founder and president
> James Dobson promoted his organization's annual ex-gay conference, Love
> Won Out, in which gays and their families are told that homosexuality is
> "preventable and treatable." Then, he presented evidence that "the
> pendulum is swinging back," informing his listeners that he had just
> received a thank you note from new Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito.
>
> Dobson praised his listeners for helping to seat John Roberts and Alito
> in time for a partial-birth abortion case ("in this case, [your
> activism] absolutely affected history," he told his audience).
>
> Not only is it unprecedented for a Supreme Court justice to send a thank
> you note to an interest group, it is highly unethical. Alito has
> admitted that he owes his job to a man who told his listeners today to
> "please be in prayer that by the time that probition on abortion reaches
> the Supreme Court, there will be one more conservative justice sitting
> there." From now on, plaintiffs and defendants in cases dealing with
> issues from abortion to gay rights to school prayer should demand that
> Alito recuse himself. Alito is deeply embedded in the pocket of the
> Christian right and perhaps
> more compromised than anyone could have imagined.
>
> Here is the text of Alito's letter to Dobson, which Dobson read on air:
>
> Dear Dr. Dobson:
>
> This is just a short note to express my heartfelt thanks to you and the
> entire staff of Focus on the Family for your help and support during the
> past few challenging months.
>
> I would also greatly appreciate it if you would convey my appreciation
> to the good people from all parts of the country who wrote to tell me
> that they were praying for me and for my family during this period.
>
> As I said when I spoke at my formal investiture at the White House last
> week, the prayers of so many people from around the country were a
> palpable and powerful force.
>
> As long as I serve on the Supreme Court I will keep in mind the trust
> that has been placed in me.
>
> I hope that we'll have the opportunity to meet personally at some point
> in the future.
>
> In the meantime my entire family and I hope that you and the Focus on
> the Family staff know how we appreciate all that you have done.
>
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Samuel Alito
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