[IP] "if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it?"]]
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Subject: Re: [IP] "if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you
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Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 13:22:04 -0600
From: Chunka Mui <chunka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: David_Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Dave,
I think David Brin¹s idea in ³The Transparent Society² is the right one.
The first response to folks like the Houston police chief and mayor should
be ³Let¹s start by putting up cameras so that the public can watch your
houses and property. Heck, let¹s put them inside too because, if you¹re not
doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it?²
Regards,
Chunka
On 2/19/06 7:49 AM, "Dave Farber" <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
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> Subject: "if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry
> about it?"
> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:38:11 -0800
> From: DV Henkel-Wallace <gumby@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Dave,
>
> I saw this, indirectly, on Techdirt.
>
> I do feel sorry for the police chief, and for the people of Houston.
> But still, it's a pretty scary idea for anyone to raise.
>
> -d
>
> Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Police_Cameras.html
>
> By PAM EASTON
> ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
>
> HOUSTON -- Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing
> surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets,
> shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a
> shortage of police officers.
>
> "I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my
> response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should
> you worry about it?" Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a
> regular briefing.
>
> Houston is facing a severe police shortage because of too many
> retirements and too few recruits, and the city has absorbed 150,000
> hurricane evacuees who are filling apartment complexes in crime-
> ridden neighborhoods. The City Council is considering a public safety
> tax to pay for more officers.
>
> Building permits should require malls and large apartment complexes
> to install surveillance cameras, Hurtt said. And if a homeowner
> requires repeated police response, it is reasonable to require camera
> surveillance of the property, he said.
>
> Scott Henson, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Police
> Accountability Project in Texas, called Hurtt's building-permit
> proposal "radical and extreme" and said it may violate the Fourth
> Amendment's protections against unreasonable searches.
>
> Andy Teas with the Houston Apartment Association said that although
> some would consider cameras an invasion of privacy, "I think a lot of
> people would appreciate the thought of extra eyes looking out for them."
>
> Such cameras are costly, Houston Mayor Bill White said, "but on the
> other hand we spend an awful lot for patrol presence." He called the
> chief's proposal a "brainstorm" rather than a decision.
>
> The program would require City Council approval.
>
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