[IP] more on Could NY Times face a treason trial?
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From: Dan Shoop <shoop@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: January 24, 2006 4:55:40 PM EST
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx, ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Could NY Times face a treason trial?
At 2:23 PM -0500 1/24/06, David Farber wrote:
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From: Richard Perlman <perl@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: January 24, 2006 2:15:02 PM EST
To: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>, ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] Could NY Times face a treason trial?
Dave:
Let me get this straight. The President is not guilty of violating
the law
by ordering wire taps, because they are "legal" given some
understanding of
Congress' Iraq resolution. But, the NYT might be guilty of treason
for
divulging the, presumably legal, actions of the President.
22 years later than Orwell predicted.
Considering how it is the mission of the NSA to intercept all
communications traffic that enters or leaves our shores, no matter if
the originator or recipient is a US Citizen or not, I find it hardly
surprising that this is even newsworthy. Traffic from an American
citizen on US soil to a foreign national abroad is notable SIGINT
traffic that doesn't require a warrant because it is monitoring the
foreign national. Transversely, traffic from a foreign national
abroad to an American citizen on US soil is also notable SIGINT
traffic as it is also monitoring a foreign national.
Now if the NSA was intercepting domestic traffic, or it was
intercepting traffic between two American citizens (one of which was
on US soil), that would be a different matter entirely.
Moreover, intercepts have been used in *peacetime* as part of
executive power. They were most used under Democratic Presidents.
Jimmy Carter was a notable example. Given the war-time posturing of
the current administration it would seem as if they'd have even more
of a case of support than less.
--
-dhan
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