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[IP] more on Subpoena for 1 million random web searches





Begin forwarded message:

From: Dana Blankenhorn <dana@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: January 20, 2006 3:18:37 PM EST
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] Subpoena for 1 million random web searches

A guy who wrote a book on Google was on CNBC today (I want to say David Vise http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/055380457X/qid=1137788170/ sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-4841783-9926447? s=books&v=glance&n=283155) and said that the subpoena doesn't really want Personally Identifiable Information, just numbers to substantiate a point in an ongoing court case.

He also claims there's a guy named Mark Cutts at Google who is known as the "porn cookie guy." He gives away his wife's home-baked cookies to folks there who can help him identify porn sites the engine can de- list.

Of course the same character claimed the USA Patriot Act covers this when no one at the time had any idea it covered porn and ordinary crime. Maybe he was right on that, I don't know.


Dana Blankenhorn   dana@xxxxxxx
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David Farber" <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 2:40 PM
Subject: [IP] Subpoena for 1 million random web searches




Begin forwarded message:

From: Sean Donelan <sean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: January 19, 2006 2:54:04 PM EST
To: CYBERIA-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [CYBERIA] Subpoena for 1 million random web searches
Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA- L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Is this the very definition of fishing for evidence. How do wiretap laws apply when you don't even know who's data you are subpoening? How does the government intend to notify the individuals their data was obtained by the government? If they did discover illegal activity, can they use the
randomly collected data as evidence?  What is a reasonable expectation
of privacy when Google used to publically display the contents of
some in-progress searches on the wall of their corporate headquarters?
Could the government just put an agent in Google's lobby and take notes
of what appeared on the Google search wall under a form of "in plain
sight" rule?

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/13657303.htm

  In court papers filed in U.S. District Court in San Jose, Justice
  Department lawyers revealed that Google has refused to comply with a
subpoena issued last year for the records, which include a request for 1 million random Web addresses and records of all Google searches from any
  one-week period.


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