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I have been so "bullied" but I fight back djf


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From: Jordan Pollack <pollack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: December 31, 2005 3:01:12 PM EST
To: mary.shaw@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: ip lurker bullies

Hi Mary,

Sorry to see you bullied. I've seen this exact kind of off-list email mind-control bullying repeatedly over several years on Jewish mailing lists and bulletin boards. If you spoke up against any israeli policy, say, the murder of Rachel Corrie, or the assassination of Sheik Yassin, the illegal expropriation of land, the destruction of olive groves and construction of a illegal border wall, etc., you became subject to a barrage of hateful email from angry and anonymous ultra-right-wing jews suggesting that you are a towel-head lover, that you should invite al quada terrorists into your house to rape your daughter. you could even get added to the self-hating-jew hit list http://www.masada2000.org/shit-list.html

Its good that you exposed this, but I wonder how many other people on IP are getting bullied by lurking trolls and not exposing it. Dave, it may be worth asking people if they have received similar nastygrams for items posted.

Jordan


David Farber wrote:



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From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: December 31, 2005 1:57:10 PM EST
To: JoeyEM@xxxxxxx
Cc: Dave Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] AP Story Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Joe,

You appear to be saying that it's treasonous to expose illegal acts by the government if those acts are carried out under the cloak of protecting us
from our enemies.

There seems to be something fundamentally broken about your model -- it has no way to curtail illegal activities by the government. The checks and balances provided for in the Constitution can't operate in this atmosphere, and the Constitution is what the government is supposed to be defending.

The argument that the ends justify the means has long been suspect.

Mary


----- Original Message -----
From: <JoeyEM@xxxxxxx>
To: <mary.shaw@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [IP] AP Story Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak


You ask why Mary??  How about treason!  Traitors who have  disclosed
information about an effective means with which to capture and destroy
enemies of the
US.

Mary, in case you didn't know, Muslims are out there who want to kill you. I know it's hard for Liberals to accept this basis truth, but if you don't accept the fact that we are at war and that the NY Times and Washington
Post
are more interested in protecting the rights of our enemies than your life
you
better order your burka outfit as you may soon be required to wear one.

And yes Mary, the NYT and WP are traitorous.

Joe Mersnik




From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: December 30, 2005  12:26:18 PM EST
To: Dave Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: AP Story  Justice Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

Dave,

Why is the  Justice Dept probing the leak rather than the domestic
spying program  itself?  Or did I miss the announcement of the latter?

Excerpted  from  http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/
20051230/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/domestic_spying_probe_6

Mary

============================

Justice  Dept. Probing Domestic Spying Leak

By TONI LOCY, Associated Press  Writer

The Justice Department has opened an investigation into the leak  of
classified information about President Bush's secret domestic  spying
program, Justice officials said Friday.

The officials,  who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of
the probe, said  the inquiry will focus on disclosures to The New York
Times about  warrantless surveillance conducted by the National
Security Agency  since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

[[[snip]]]

Revelation of the  secret spying program unleashed a firestorm of
criticism of the  administration. Some critics accused the president
of breaking the law  by authorizing intercepts of conversations
without prior court  approval or oversight  of people inside the
United States and abroad  who had suspected ties to al-Qaida or its
affiliates.

[[[snip]]]




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