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Begin forwarded message:

From: "Dr. James J. O'Donnell" <provost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: September 29, 2005 7:34:41 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Ip <ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Logan ... frequent fliers



Dave, I incline to agree with Jean Camp's problem statement, but still
push it one step further. Just how large is the problem? Can we quantify
(a) number of people who will be able to participate, (b) measure of
anticipated benefit, and (c) cost of introducing and operating the
service?  Those seem to me the essential questions, unasked in public.
Shall we have the crowded search areas at airports rearranged to squeeze
in an "HOV Lane" that gets one passenger every 15 minutes at rush hour?
Who saves an average of two minutes waiting time?

Jim O'Donnell
Georgetown

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, David Farber wrote:




Begin forwarded message:

From: jean_camp <jean_camp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: September 29, 2005 4:31:04 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Logan considers easing way for frequent fliers


What is the problem that is being solved?

1. finding terrorists who we presume do not fly often
2. making valuable business travelers happy
3. removing anyone with enough  power to contradict TSA from the
search loop

You cannot say if this is a good or bad idea without understanding
the problem statement.

thanks,
Jean

On Sep 28, 2005, at 7:16 PM, David Farber wrote:





Begin forwarded message:

From: Richard Wiggins <richard.wiggins@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: September 28, 2005 8:05:46 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Logan considers easing way for frequent
fliers
Reply-To: Richard Wiggins <richard.wiggins@xxxxxxxxx>


Dave,

Dr. O'Donnell raises a good point: is this just catering to an elite?
I think it's a little subtler than that.  There are a lot of people
who fly multiple times a week as part of their jobs.  Many of these
folks might decide to drive or take the train if the burden of airport
security is sufficiently onerous.

If you fly over 200 times in a year and this is the difference between
a 5 minute security check and 30 minutes in line, that's 100 hours
wasted.  No doubt that won't evoke much sympathy from anyone who
travels a few times a year.  Still, I think a case can be made that a
program that eases the way for people who basically commute via the
commercial airlines is not just a paean to the elite.

They will give up some cash and a little liberty for the privilege, so
cue that Ben Franklin quote....

/rich

On 9/28/05, David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Begin forwarded message:

From: "Dr. James J. O'Donnell" <provost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: September 28, 2005 9:50:39 AM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] Logan considers easing way for frequent fliers



Dave,

We've seen these discussions of fast lanes for several years now.
Could
we ask the cost-benefit question?  (1) What would it cost to
create this
system?  (2) If it's really for people who fly once a week or
more, how
great is the benefit and is this really only for a tiny elite?
(3) Just
how bad is it going through security now? I fly 100K a year, through
pretty busy airports (most regularly Dulles, National, Laguardia,
O'Hare,
SFO), and I have to say that I've adjusted to the basic hassles
(laptop
out, shoes off, jacket off) and the time-through-security is *not*
a real
problem at this point. Among other things, I think it is the regular
fliers who have their personal drill down so they *don't* trigger
extra
searches.  (They're pulling bags over when they spot folding
umbrellas
now:  ok, dumb, but I get it, so the umbrella travels visible now
and it's
part of my drill.)

So:  is this a problem that has solved itself *sufficiently* (to
say 90%
of optimum) that it's not worth putting resources into solving
further?
I'm not saying I like any of the extra layers that have been put
on the
system or that I agree that they are necessary:  I'm just asking
the "how
big is this problem *really*" question.

Jim O'Donnell
Georgetown U.


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