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[IP] more on Vint Cerf muses about Google role, broadband





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From: Tom Fairlie <tfairlie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: September 18, 2005 8:20:20 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Vint Cerf muses about Google role, broadband


Dave,

This is in the same vein as Google's server farms.

I don't know how many people have mentioned to me
how cool/smart/awesome Google's Linux farm is and
how they broke the mold in designing their business
around something other than Solaris or Windows or
Linux "pizza boxes."

My response is simply that Google sat down and
actually designed their compute/web farm to have the
appropriate characteristics--something that almost no
business does. We can all sit around slapping Google
on the back or we can laugh at the average company
that buys something off the shelf from their local
boutique IT consultant (if that) and watches it suck
their profits and productivity dry.

I used to work as a network consultant in the telecom
industry before the nuclear winter set in and it was
always amazing to me how the big providers managed
their *internal* networks (the ones for employees and
out of band management). In a nutshell, they were, on
average, the worst networks I've ever seen in terms of
problems per dollar spent on infrastructure.

This was the experience that taught me what corporate
America thinks of quality. Ironically, they could all save
millions if they just did it right the first time. In most
cases, it looks like at least Google (and maybe eBay)
learned this lesson and did it right.

Tom Fairlie

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Farber" <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Ip Ip" <ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 6:58 PM
Subject: [IP] more on Vint Cerf muses about Google role, broadband




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From: "Greg W. Brooks" <gregb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: September 18, 2005 7:42:28 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [IP] more on Vint Cerf muses about Google role, broadband
Reply-To: gregb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Yes, but without the value-added that is... AdWords. (chuckle)

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2005 7:27 PM
To: Ip Ip
Subject: [IP] more on Vint Cerf muses about Google role, broadband



Begin forwarded message:

From: Raymcfarld@xxxxxxx
Date: September 18, 2005 7:20:05 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] Vint Cerf muses about Google role, broadband


I've had this in my car since 1998!

Ray

In a message dated 9/18/05 3:48:15 PM, dave@xxxxxxxxxx writes:




the capability to
locate, say, the nearest hospital or ATM from mobile devices--as a
critically important venture.





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