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From: "robertslee@xxxxxxxxxxx"<robertslee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 04/09/05 5:39:27 AM
To: "dave@xxxxxxxxxx"<dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] DHS' Chertoff: "We didn't plan for an A-bomb, either!"

You have terribly ordinary people in extraordinarily important jobs, facing 
extraordinary events. I spent days watching news feeds on my computer and 
listening to Fox, ironically. And even this station, which is to the right of 
Atilla the Hun, was appalled, even as the storm bore down (before it struck and 
as it struck) by the sheer unreality of the governor and mayor.

I also have no doubt that racism was involved.  I noted that this time, as in 
all racially encrusted events in this country, the power structure was actually 
relieved when they saw black looters.  It gave them an excuse to do nothing so 
that all non blacks would see what animals blacks are. 

The hurrican did not fly into New Orleans at 400 miles an hour from left field. 
 It moved on them at 10 miles an hour and days before it struck they were 
saying the city would be under water, so why the hell do they then do nothing 
for days after and why do they make the evacuation voluntary and under your own 
steam instead of evacuating the city before hand.

I saw an interview of the governor with Bill O'Reilly during the storm and he 
asked her five times incredulously how long it would take New Orleans to 
recover and she said a few weeks, each time.

Not because she is a liar but because she is just a little person in a big job.

I listened to a high officer in some military organization say he had assembled 
from other states a force to send into New Orleans but never sent them because 
New Orleans had not called him and asked for them.  He protested that he can 
not force help on New Orleans.  What is the chance of tail being true?  Zero.  
He is lying.  But that begs the question of why?  Racism?  Stupidity?  A 
military man assembles a force to do battle and then never sends them to 
battle?  Has New Orleans called him yet?

And the feds saying they could not send in troops because there was the phone 
lines were down? Do they need my sat phone?  How do they fight wars in the 
damned desert?  Do they get SBC to run telephone poles?  How do the navy and 
marines do it in water?  And the coast guard.  I will lend them my fins and my 
sat phone. And SCUBA gear if they need it.

These leaders of ours KILLED innocent people as surely as if they had taken 
their heads and pushed them below the surface of the water.

There have been floods in our history. But there has never been such a bizarre 
constructive refusal to ameliorate or prevent such suffering.

I hope, but doubt, that heads roll.  We have moved from the pass fail world of 
yesterday to the pass world of today.







>From: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Sat Sep 03 18:49:16 CDT 2005
>To: Ip Ip <ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [IP] DHS' Chertoff: "We didn't plan for an A-bomb, either!"

>
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>From: Lauren Weinstein <lauren@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: September 3, 2005 7:22:30 PM EDT
>To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: lauren@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: DHS' Chertoff: "We didn't plan for an A-bomb, either!"
>
>
>
>Dave,
>
>My subject line above paraphrases a bit, but in case you missed it,
>Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff made a
>remarkable statement at a press conference today.  He was asked why
>there had not been sufficient planning for a strong hurricane that
>could cause failure of the New Orleans levee system.
>
>After first characterizing the question as argumentative, he
>appeared to plead that these two events were not reasonable to
>associate for planning purposes -- a ludicrous assumption to most
>observers.  And he noted that they hadn't planned for an atomic bomb
>being added to the mix either.
>
>Say what?  I was so startled by the bizarre A-bomb reference that I
>had to replay it -- but there it was, and here it is -- play it for
>yourself:
>
>http://www.vortex.com/dhs-chertoff-2005-09-03.mp3
>
>If Chertoff really believes that this is a valid comparison, then
>at least some of the Katrina response failure is explained, and
>we should all be even more concerned.
>
>--Lauren--
>Lauren Weinstein
>lauren@xxxxxxxx or lauren@xxxxxxxxxx or lauren@xxxxxxxx
>Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
>http://www.pfir.org/lauren
>Co-Founder, PFIR
>   - People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
>Co-Founder, EEPI
>   - Electronic Entertainment Policy Initiative - http://www.eepi.org
>Moderator, PRIVACY Forum - http://www.vortex.com
>Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy
>Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com
>DayThink: http://daythink.vortex.com
>
>
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