Begin forwarded message:
From: "Robert C. Atkinson" <rca53@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: August 24, 2005 5:21:57 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] more on CNN special on Iraq war intelligence
failures
Tet was a clear military victory for the United States in Vietnam:
the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese were soundly defeated on the
battlefield. But Tet was a public relations/propaganda disaster back
in the United States, possibly because of the anti-war bias of the
media. If there is a "Tet like attack on Baghdad" will history
repeat itself? The insurgents will be undoubtedley be annihilated if
they stand and fight so the question is whether they would win the
propaganda war? Except for the "home front" propaganda issue, the US
military is probably hoping for a Tet-like attack where they can
confront and utterly destroy the enemy.
And the "home front" is much different today than in the Tet-era: no
anti-war protests on college campuses, soldiers are admired not
reviled, there is strong political support for the troops in the
field, the President has a strong core of support, and there is an
effective rightwing/pro-war press (talk radio, Fox News Channel, the
Washington Times, rightwing bloggers, etc.) to counter the leftwing/
anti-war press. So, a "Tet like attack on Baghdad" might be the best
thing that could happen.
Bob
David Farber wrote:
Begin forwarded message:
From: chodge5@xxxxxxx
Date: August 24, 2005 4:32:13 PM EDT
To: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures
Not sure if you caught Sy Hersch on the Daily Show the other night
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002302.html
He claims US intelligence now indicates the insurgency is
regrouping and
preparing for a TET-like attack on Baghdad, and the report this
morning of
a coordinated attack in West Baghdad seems to lend some credence to
his
claim. If there is a Battle for Baghdad looming, and the Green
Zone is
isolated, the war may not drag on for years, as most people are
predicting.
-c
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, David Farber wrote:
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:38:02 -0400
From: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [IP] CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures
-----Original Message-----
From: "Lauren Weinstein"<lauren@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 20/08/05 11:55:22 AM
To: "dave@xxxxxxxxxx"<dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "lauren@xxxxxxxxxx"<lauren@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures
Dave,
Of possible interest (noted particularly for those IP readers who
don't
regularly watch TV news):
"Dead Wrong" -- Inside an Intelligence Meltdown
Sunday, August 21 (tomorrow)
8pm EDT
CNN
(scheduled repeats at 11pm, 2am, and later in the week)
--Lauren--
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lauren@xxxxxxxx or lauren@xxxxxxxxxx or lauren@xxxxxxxx
Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800
http://www.pfir.org/lauren
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- People For Internet Responsibility - http://www.pfir.org
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