[IP] more on CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures

[David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: "Robert C. Atkinson" <rca53@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: August 24, 2005 5:21:57 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] more on CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures


Tet was a clear military victory for the United States in Vietnam:  
the Viet Cong and North Vietnamese were soundly defeated on the  
battlefield. But Tet was a public relations/propaganda disaster back  
in the United States, possibly because of the anti-war bias of the  
media.  If there is a "Tet like attack on Baghdad" will history  
repeat itself?  The insurgents will be undoubtedley be annihilated if  
they stand and fight so the question is whether they would win the  
propaganda war? Except for the "home front" propaganda issue, the US  
military is probably hoping for a Tet-like attack where they can  
confront and utterly destroy the enemy.

And the "home front" is much different today than in the Tet-era: no  
anti-war protests on college campuses, soldiers are admired not  
reviled, there is strong political support for the troops in the  
field, the President has a strong core of support, and there is an  
effective rightwing/pro-war press (talk radio, Fox News Channel, the  
Washington Times, rightwing bloggers, etc.) to counter the leftwing/ 
anti-war press.  So, a "Tet like attack on Baghdad" might be the best  
thing that could happen.

Bob

David Farber wrote:
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>
> From: chodge5@xxxxxxx
> Date: August 24, 2005 4:32:13 PM EDT
> To: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [IP] CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures
>
>
>
> Not sure if you caught Sy Hersch on the Daily Show the other night
> http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002302.html
> He claims US intelligence now indicates the insurgency is  
> regrouping and
> preparing for a TET-like attack on Baghdad, and the report this   
> morning of
> a coordinated attack in West Baghdad seems to lend some credence to  
> his
> claim. If there is a Battle for Baghdad looming, and the Green Zone is
> isolated, the war may not drag on for years, as most people are
> predicting.
>
> -c
>
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, David Farber wrote:
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:38:02 -0400
> > From: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [IP] CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Lauren Weinstein"<lauren@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: 20/08/05 11:55:22 AM
> > To: "dave@xxxxxxxxxx"<dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: "lauren@xxxxxxxxxx"<lauren@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: CNN special on Iraq war intelligence failures
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> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Of possible interest (noted particularly for those IP readers who   
> > don't
> > regularly watch TV news):
> >
> >    "Dead Wrong" -- Inside an Intelligence Meltdown
> >     Sunday, August 21 (tomorrow)
> >     8pm EDT
> >     CNN
> >     (scheduled repeats at 11pm, 2am, and later in the week)
> >
> > --Lauren--
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