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From: "Synthesis: Law and Technology" <synthesis.law.and.technology@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: August 13, 2005 3:41:38 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] more on YES YES TSA may loosen carry-on, shoe- removal, other rules


Dave,

Doesnt this simply create a new class of 'valuable' ID to forge or steal?
want to avoid patdown? become a judge for the day
Am I wrong in being scared at this potential loophole?

Dan Steinberg

SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology
35, du Ravin phone: (613) 794-5356
Chelsea, Quebec
J9B 1N1


On 8/13/05, David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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From: "Lin, Herb" <HLin@xxxxxxx >
Date: August 13, 2005 12:06:01 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx, Ip Ip <ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [IP] YES YES TSA may loosen carry-on, shoe-removal,
other rules


Please withhold my name if you publish.

If these powerful individuals are exempt from the security searches etc,
they will never suffer from the pains of compliance.  Thus, these
powerful voices are to a large degree eliminated as a source of pressure
to changes the regs for two reasons.  First, they themselves no longer
have the incentives to complain, since they personally don't suffer from
them.  Second, the media can no longer highlight the ridiculousness of
the regs by pointing out how a federal judge, for example, was
improperly stopped--the only people left to write (namely us) about are
not newsworthy.

Was this the reason for the proposed change?  I don't know.  But the
above would be at least a result of the change, whether intended or
unintended.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Farber [mailto:dave@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 11:02 AM
To: Ip Ip
Subject: [IP] YES YES TSA may loosen carry-on, shoe-removal, other rules

I for one  would boo or make other derogatory comments as the pseudo-
elites walk past me at airport security lines. The NOBLES of the US
BAH!!! djf


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From: Mary Shaw <mary.shaw@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: August 13, 2005 8:42:30 AM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] TSA may loosen carry-on, shoe-removal, other rules


Airline pilots but not cabin crew???

Why don't we go all the way and exempt all licensed airplane pilots?

The sort of rank elitism displayed here should not, let us hope, sit
well with the American public.

Mary


On 8/13/05, David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: What happened to the
excuse for searching and harassing old ladies and babies and
handicapped.  You know -- maybe someone planted something on them. This
is getting to be even more theater djf



"The TSA memo proposes to minimize the number of passengers who must be
patted down at checkpoints. It also recommends that certain categories
of passengers be exempt from airport security screening, such as members
of Congress, airline pilots, Cabinet members, state governors, federal
judges, high-ranking military officers and people with top-secret
security clearances."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/12/
AR2005081201557.html



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