[IP] more on RealID: How to become an unperson.
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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: July 7, 2005 9:52:28 AM EDT
To: hadmut@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: cryptography@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Forwarded] RealID: How to become an unperson.
hadmut@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
But nevertheless, I do not understand why americans are so afraid of
an ID card.
Perhaps I can explain why I am.
I do not trust governments. I've inherited this perspective. My
grandfather sent his children abroad from Speyer in Germany just after
the ascension of Adolf Hitler in the early 1930s -- his neighbors
thought he was crazy, but few of them survived the coming events. My
father was sent to Alsace, but he stayed too long in France and ended
up being stuck there after the occupation. If it were not for forged
papers, he would have died. (He had a most amusing story of working as
an electrician rewiring a hotel used as office space by the Gestapo in
Strasbourg -- his forged papers were apparently good enough that no
one noticed.) Ultimately, he and other members of the family escaped
France by "illegally" crossing the border into Switzerland. (I put
"illegally" in quotes because I don't believe one has any moral
obligation to obey a "law" like that, especially since it would leave
you dead if you obeyed.)
Anyway, if the governments of the time had actually had access to
modern anti-forgery techniques, I might never have been born.
To you, ID cards are a nice way to keep things orderly. To me, they
are a potential death sentence.
Most Europeans seem to see government as the friendly, nice set of
people who keep the trains running on time and who watch out for your
interests. A surprisingly large fraction of Americans are people or
the descendants of people who experienced the institution of
government as the thing that tortured their friends to death, or
gassed them, or stole all their money and nearly starved them to
death, etc. Hundreds of millions of people died at the hands of their
own governments in the 20th century, and many of the people that
escaped from such horrors moved here. They view things like ID cards
and mandatory registry of residence with the local police as the way
that the government rounded up their friends and relatives so they
could be killed.
I do not wish to argue about which view is correct. Perhaps I am wrong
and Government really is the large friendly group of people that are
there to help you. Perhaps the cost/benefit analysis of ID cards and
such makes us look silly. I'm not addressing the question of whether
my view is right here -- I'm just trying to explain the psychological
mindset that would make someone think ID cards are a very bad idea.
So, the next time one of your friends in Germany asks why the crazy
Americans think ID cards and such are a bad thing, remember my father,
and remember all the people like him who fled to the US over the last
couple hundred years and who left children that still remember such
things, whether from China or North Korea or Germany or Spain or
Russia or Yugoslavia or Chile or lots of other places.
Perry
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