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From: Paul Holman <pablos@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: June 4, 2005 3:42:31 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
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Subject: Re: more on Opinions Re: [IP] Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips rumor on CNet


On Jun 4, 2005, at 11:11 AM, David Farber wrote:


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From: Matt Clauson <mec@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: June 4, 2005 11:32:29 AM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Opinions Re: [IP] Apple to ditch IBM, switch to Intel chips rumor on CNet

On Jun 4, 2005, at 6:39 AM, David Farber wrote:


http://news.com.com/2102-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=st.util.print


I have significant doubts that Apple as a corporation is stupid enough to shoot themselves in the foot like this. Anyone who follows the more hardcore tech rags, or even a news aggregator like Slashdot, will remember the recent PearPC/CherryOS debacle, where the specifics of emulation of grossly different hardware (in this case, the PowerPC CPU architecture on the Intel x86 platform) can have massively horrible results in performance. In this case, it's allegedly due to the horribly different CPU designs, including instruction sets and number of registers between the two architectures. Apparently the reverse type of emulation (x86 emulation on PPC architecture) doesn't have as many problems.

The major question to ask is what will Apple's user base do if this switch happens? A lot of current (and theoretically non-legacy) applications will have to run under the emulation, significantly impairing performance. Does Apple expect that the users will shell out hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars to upgrade their applications to something that will run natively on the new platform? What about the thousands of dollars in man-hours for third-party software vendors (like Adobe) to port their products to OSX/Intel platforms? While users pay a premium for Apple hardware currently (and I'll admit, I've been bitten by the bug recently and am beginning my own conversion after over a decade of almost-rabid Linux usage) that premium is usually well justified in the elegance and performance of the hardware, especially the past few years under OSX. Does Apple really expect their users to end up paying thousands of dollars to switch to what seems to me like a computationally inferior platform?

I pray that they don't, for this would almost be a form of corporate seppuku if they do.

--mec


While I'm a big fan of the PowerPC, I think it is rash to conclude that Apple is going to "shoot themselves in the foot" with a move to Intel processors. It should be recalled that Apple did a surprisingly smooth job of transitioning from 680x0 procs to PowerPC when there was a lot less performance margin to smooth things over. From a user's perspective it was painless. For most developers that was also true. More importantly, the Next operating system (through various names and stages) ran on 680x0, PowerPC, Intel, HP PA/RISC & SPARC architectures. The development environment Apple is using (now called Cocoa) is what Next used to support the deployment of applications on those systems in addition to running on other operating systems - Windows, Solaris, HP/UX. A surprising amount of this technology is already in MacOS X. Given another year or so to work on it, I have little doubt that Apple can make it very easy for most developers to support the new architecture, and nearly transparent for the user.

Beyond that, this is a kingpin in getting Apple the economies of scale that Wintel hardware vendors have on processors. This can do a lot to make it practical for Apple to be price competitive on an ongoing basis. That price gap is always one of the top reasons for the Mac being ruled out in hardware purchasing decisions.

Far from seppuku in my opinion.

pablos.
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Paul Holman
The Shmoo Group
pablos@xxxxxxxxx


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