[IP] barry goldwater
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From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 15/4/'05, 13:38
Dave,
It's time to start quoting Barry Goldwater, of all people, who said:
" "I am a conservative Republican," Barry Goldwater wrote in a 1994
Washington Post essay, "but I believe in democracy and the separation of
church and state. The conservative movement is founded on the simple
tenet that people have the right to live life as they please as long as
they don't hurt anyone else in the process."
and
"I don't have any respect for the Religious Right. _There is no place
in this country for practicing religion in politics_. That goes for
Falwell, Robertson and all the rest of these political preachers. They
are a detriment to the country."
More quotes like this at http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/goldwater.html
Cheers,
Miles
Dave Farber wrote:
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> From: Bob Frankston <Bob19-0501@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: 15/4/'05, 11:16
>
> Frist Set to Use Religious Stage on Judicial Issue
> By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
> Senator Bill Frist will participate in a telecast portraying Democrats
> as "against people of faith" for blocking the president's nominees.
>
>
>
> My interpretation is that he wants to revisit the rational basis for
> our judiciary and society and give blind faith a trump card. This is
> very dangerous - a wil lful return to ignorance. My hope is that this
> will make the extent of the crises very clear and the remaining
> “moderate” Republicans and their constituencies w ill wake up to the
> dangers.
>
> We shouldn't blame outsourcing and others for choices we are making to
> opt out of competitiveness into a world of fantasy where knowledge is
> viewed as evil.
>
> Science is nothing more than checking against reality. One might have
> to rely faith in the absence of information but to rely on faith in
> defiance of reality is something else.
>
> Frist is choosing to undo the compromise on which this country is
> based -- the tolerance of others' beliefs. It allowed a reality-based
> approach to come to the fore simply because it worked. I fear undoing
> that compromise both because of the ferocity of true believers and
> because of the economic consequences. He is rem oving the veneer and
> exposing the deep divisions.
>
> Bob Frankston
> http://www.frankston.com
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