------ Forwarded Message From: Kevin Murphy <kmurphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:14:54 -0500 To: <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [IP] ITU or ICANN - a case story from Denmark In the case of ENUM, ICANN has a tendency to defer to ITU. There have been a number of proposals to do commercial ENUM in a top-level domain, by launching a domain such as .tel, with ICANN's consent. Pulver.com, of Free World Dialup, has been one of the proponents of this idea, applying to ICANN to run .tel in 2000 and again last year. The 2000 application was declined by ICANN due to the objections of the ITU, which is concerned that there could be conflict with the E164 numbering plan. ITU objected again last year, so it looks rather like the same thing is going to happen this time around, though ICANN has not publicly come out and said so yet. Kevin Murphy US Bureau Chief ComputerWire San Francisco, CA 94103 415 543 5496 kevin.murphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ________________________________ From: owner-ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of David Farber Sent: Wed 1/12/2005 6:31 AM To: Ip Subject: [IP] ITU or ICANN - a case story from Denmark ------ Forwarded Message From: Frode Greisen <frode@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:17:38 +0100 To: David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: ITU or ICANN - a case story from Denmark Dave, for IP if you wish. Why ENUM does not happen. ------------------------- Last March we got the idea to set up the name server for the Danish ENUM domain, ie. using Danish phone numbers as domain names. The phone number +45 12345678 would be transformed into the name 8.7.6.5.4.3.2.1.5.4.e164.arpa and then the user could use DNS to direct communication to his IP phone, email or PDA. We were not sure it would catch on since there are so many other domain names, but I work at a government agency whose mission includes piloting new technology, and running the top level would be trivial as long as the volume is small. There is an agreement between the ITU and the IESG that the RIPE NCC runs the top level domain but requests to operate county domains must go to ITU-T which forwards the request to the country telecom regulator for decision. Now, Denmark is a small country with 5 M inhabitants and a well funded and well working public administration so at first I called the regulator and we met a few weeks later. They were interested and had questions. As talks and correspondence grew and took time without progress we sent the request to RIPE NCC and a bit later the regulator got the official request from ITU-T. Their response to this difficult situation was to hand over the case to their resort ministry (for Science, Technology and Development). Well, after an exchange of letters we had a meeting with the ministry who explained that they had to make a public hearing. I provided paperwork for the hearing which was sent to 160 organizations. The responses were mostly negative with good arguments that the Name Service should be allocated based on open tender (which would take another year and perhaps attract no bidders) and that issues with security, competition and rights should be thoroughly discussed and understood (which would require some careful work that nobody may be likely to invest on such a risky project). Of course, the organizations who had the time to respond to the hearing include the incumbent telco and other large telcos who have to argue against all change that may threaten their existing business, plus trade organizations who have learned that the Internet got big and that there is money in domain names. The small IP telephony companies did not have time to respond. Right now, I'm trying to convince the ministry that they should follow up with a public verbal hearing and get a decision before the anniversary of the case. In the mean time Skype has been downloaded 50 million times. IP telephony companies will be routed without ENUM, and the ITU and governments should not manage technology innovation. Frode ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as kevin.murphy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses through the MessageLabs Virus Control Center. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses through the MessageLabs Virus Control Center. ------ End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------------- You are subscribed as roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
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