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From: Erik Huizer <huizer@xxxxxxxx>
Date: August 22, 2004 7:12:56 AM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP] Understanding Anti-Americanism

Dave,

I really have problems with this view of anti-Americanism. Of course the rest of the world deals with stereotypes of the USA, distributed mainly by your own movie and TV industry. However that is exactly the same for any other country. Everyone ouside my country seems to believe we live behind Dikes and walk on wooden shoes and are very tolerant towards drugs. Most countries in the world, including the USA assume that the Netherlands is the root of all drug-evil.

On average those stereotype misgivings balance out and do not create a real feeling of anti-country in any respect. Until Bush came into office the Netherlands and its inhabitants were real pro-American. Teh USA was at the top of the list of nations considered most-friendly.

Even before 9/11 the USA had slipped down that list. Bush turned Clintons decision about the Kyoto protocol upside down, and that hurt (Dutch care very much about the environment). Then Bush opposed the internetional court of law for war crimes established in my country. He even went as far as to adopt a ruling that the USA can invade the Netherlands at any time to free US soldiers that would be on trial before that court. (The reasoning being that US soldiers do not ever commit war crimes, yeah right).

As you can imagine, being the only country in the world where the US-president now has a carte-blanche for attack does not help to increase popularity. The US tumbled down the list of most friendly countries and entered on the list of most feared countries.

9/11 reversed that. There was a lot of sympathy over here and people really grieved with your countrymen over what happened. We supported the anti-terrorism plans. But then bit by bit we saw things happening that again reversed everything: the protection of the American steel market (against WTO agreement), the Patriot act and (probably somewhat a stereotype, but still...) the perception of the Americans dealing away freedom for safety. The horror stories of non-US travellers boarding planes to/from the US. The war on Iraq, which we were unsure about (remember that almost all European governments supported Bush in his attack on Iraq, but 90% (!) of the population of Europe (including teh UK) was against it). Then the llack of weapons of mass-destruction, the uncovering of lies, untruth etc.

All that has instilled a lot of anti-Americanism and has made the US now number one of the list of most feared nations.

However, bad as that may be, it is not all bad. Most people in Europe I believe know that this anti-Americanism is directed against politics and government. We know too many Americans personally to be able to dislike the American people (on the contrary). We also realise that Europe still is not a unity that is able to effectively respond to world-crisis, and we need the US to do that.

So there is a lot of anti-Americanism in Europe, but it is not just based on stereotypes and it is also not so deep that it is harmful (yet). However it is certainly due to developments ofver the past three years, to think otherwise is unrealistic.

Erik Huizer
University of Utrecht
The Netherlands

--On zaterdag 21 augustus 2004 16:42 -0400 David Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



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From: "Stephen D. Poe" <sdpoe@xxxxxxx>
Date: August 21, 2004 4:38:24 PM EDT
To: Dave Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Understanding Anti-Americanism
Reply-To: sdpoe@xxxxxxx

               UNDERSTANDING ANTI-AMERICANISM

                       by Barry Rubin

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