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Subject: [IP] more on Fascinating Airline Security Story
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From: Richard Perlman <perl@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: July 20, 2004 4:24:41 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx, Ip <ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] more on Fascinating Airline Security Story
Dave:
There is a disturbing undercurrent to this current discussion
re: civil rights and airline passengers. There appears to be
an unstated
association
between "men of middle-eastern decent," the Moslem religion and
terrorism.
I have seen groups of white, anglo-saxon (probably protestant) people
arrive
on planes in ones, twos and small groups, congregate, go to the
bathroom,
talk in the aisle, etc. Most of the time they were part of
some team or performing group and, as a native born American,
their behaviors seemed normal to me. By the same token, in
my travels around the world I have
seen
behaviors that were down-right odd, approaching the bizarre,
that were completely normal in the cultural context of my
location at the time.
The point: that which we know, seems normal and safe, that
which we do
not
know may seem confusing, even threatening, even while, in the
context of another culture it would be perfectly normal.
So, we could certainly start treating people of "apparent
middle-eastern origin" differently, search them, etc. Of
course, we would then be completely open to an attack of what
looked like a college basketball
team.
We must resist attempts to drag us into a state of jingoism and
xenophobia
to protect us from a threat that may well be of our own making.
Richard
On 7/20/04 12:58, "David Farber" <dave@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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From: Hiawatha Bray <watha@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: July 20, 2004 3:01:12 PM EDT
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx, ip@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [IP] more on Fascinating Airline Security Story
Actually, some bloggers have checked into the Jacobsen
"Terror in the
Skies" story and say that it appears to be substantially
true. They
also say that
the "creative writer" Annie Jacobsen is a different person. A good
roundup
may be found at http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000207.htm.
Hiawatha Bray
Boston Globe
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From: "Meeks, Brock (MSNBCi)" <Brock.Meeks@xxxxxxxxx>
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:11:59 -0700
Subj: RE: [IP] Fascinating Airline Security Story
I thought this story was fascinating, too, when one of my sources
alerted me to it. The story started to fall apart pretty
quickly when
I dug into
it.
The woman at the core of this story fancies herself as a "creative
writer" (just Google her) and indeed, it seems she got a
bit creative
in her narrative.
Like Bruce, I believe that this kind of "boots on the ground"
vigilance is what is needed on a larger basis. The trouble, as I
found with this story,
are over-zealous, over imaginative or out right paranoid
people that
are
unable, unwilling (or both) to step back and ask themselves some
logical
questions before pressing the panic button.
--Brock
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