[IP] "Permission-based email marketers" confusedabout CAN SPAM law [sp]
-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk@xxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:44:33
To:Dave Farber <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc:declan@xxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [IP and Politech] "Permission-based email marketers" confused
about CAN SPAM law [sp]
Sigh. "Permission-based email marketers" is merely a fancy term for "spammers".
As in, for example:
> loren@xxxxxxxxxx
Uptilt.com? Ah, yes. Spammers. Already noted on at least these lists of
spammer domains:
http://obob.manilasites.com/
http://geocities.com/filterlists/domainnames.txt
http://www.river.com/ops/spam/bad-domains.txt
http://www.spamblocked.com/killfile
http://www.tls.cena.fr/%7Eboubaker/JunkTrap/domains.blacklist
http://www.znet.com/blocked-domains.html
A bit of discussion about their spamming operation:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=uptilt.com&btnG=Google+Search&meta=group%3Dnews.admin.net-abuse.email
Some example sightings of spam from them:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=uptilt.com+group:news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&safe=off&sa=G&scoring=d
The most recent spam from them (from the link just above): January 28, 2004:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=uptilt.com+group:news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=news.admin.net-abuse.sightings&safe=off&scoring=d&selm=20040129225721.918CD1BDE7B%40kalyani.oryx.com&rnum=1
Some example sightings of spam from one of their other domains (up0.net):
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q=up0.net&btnG=Google+Search&meta=group%3Dnews.admin.net-abuse.sightings
Admits renting lists of addresses (and then trying to scrub them) in this
thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/spamcon-marketing@xxxxxxxxxxx/msg00003.html
And so on.
Oh, they might very well comply with YOU-CAN-SPAM: don't know, don't care.
What I care about is that they have a long history of spamming and have
thus earned permanent blocking in all mail systems under my control.
---Rsk
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