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[IP] more on VeriSign to revive redirect service




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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:58:36 -0400
From: Henry Minsky <hqm@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] more on VeriSign to revive redirect service
To: dave@xxxxxxxxxx

There is an interview with Stratton Sclavos,CEO of Verisign, at http://news.com.com/2008-7347-5092590.html

Here are some highlights of the Q&A which particularly make my blood boil. This guy either has such a warped understanding of how Internet protocols are developed and operate that he is incompetent to be in charge of the root DNS for .com , or else he is a cynical liar. I believe the latter is the more likely. His comments about a "cultural divide" are true, but not in the way he intends. The cultural divide is between the fair, decent, ethical, and technically responsible people and
the people such  as himself.

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   *After a couple of weeks on the hot seat, VeriSign CEO Stratton
   Sclavos is turning up the fire on his company's severest critics.*


   *The Site Finder controversy
   /You temporarily suspended Site Finder in reaction to widespread
   criticism. What's the next step? /*

   The reason Site Finder became such a lightening rod is that it goes
   to the question of are we going to be in a position to do innovation
   on this infrastructure or are we going to be locked into obsolete
   thinking that the DNS was never intended to do anything other than
   what it was originally supposed to do?

   Still, a lot of people in the Internet community were quite
   surprised by Site Finder--and then you had complaints surfacing that
   it was not complying to approved standards.
   Let's break the argument down: The claim that Site Finder was
   nonstandard and that we should have informed the community we were
   doing something nonstandard--excuse me: Site Finder is completely
   standards-compliant to standards that have been out and published by
   the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) for years. That's just a
   misnomer. The IAB (Internet Architecture Board) in its review of
   Site Finder said the very same thing--that VeriSign was adhering to
   standards.

   What we're seeing are predetermined opinions masquerading as
   processes where the outcome is predetermined.
   The second claim, that we brought it out without testing--Site
   Finder had been operational since March or April and we had been
   testing it with individual companies and with the DNS traffic at
   large. Ninety-nine percent of the traffic is pure HTTP, and so it
   handles it the way it should. Just so you know, our customer service
   lines went from 800 or 900 calls on the first day to almost zero
   right now. Every customer who had a Site Finder issue, the
   remediation took less than 12 hours.

   ...
   *You temporarily suspended Site Finder in reaction to widespread
   criticism. What's the next step? *
   The reason Site Finder became such a lightening rod is that it goes
   to the question: Are we going to be in a position to do innovation
   on this infrastructure, or are we going to be locked into obsolete
   thinking that the DNS was never intended to do anything other than
   what it was originally supposed to do?
   *
   You're hinting at a cultural divide? *
   I think that there is. I don't think it's an intentional divide, but
   it's drifting apart of the day-to-day usage from the folks who did
   great steward's work in the early days and were asked to define all
   the standards to make it work.

   *And those are the people who still dominate the standards bodies? *
   They're speaking out of both sides of their mouth right now. It's
   not OK to say standards are important, unless we don't like someone
   who implemented it. And it's not OK to say these services at the
   core should not be built out, unless you're one of the small guys
   and nobody really cares. How do we build a commercial business with
   ground rules that seem to shift based on personal agenda and emotion
   versus any particular logical data set?
   ...
   *This isn't the first time people have called for ICANN to evolve.
   What's the holdup?*
   It's very difficult to have the people who built the infrastructure
   originally also be the reformers of it. That is one of the
   challenges they will run in to. It's mostly a collection of very
   technical people and a lot of lawyers. What you don't have are a lot
   of people who understand how to build products and promote markets.
   We'd prefer ICANN to become more of a trade association that
   promotes the growth of the network rather than a regulatory body
   that seems to have a very difficult time getting anything done.




His definition of "standards-compliant" is a cynical and deceptive one. Sure, the SiteFinder is complying with the standard, in that it is returning well formatted packets. However the content of those packets are lies. They are lying by saying that domains exist when they do not, in order to fool web browsers into loading the commercial content that Verisign wants to get to web surfers.



It is analogous to saying that if I put a detour sign in the middle of the freeway to direct traffic to my shopping mall, that I am obeying the traffic sign protocols.

The comment about "ninety-nine percent of the traffic is pure HTTP" is a shorthand way to sum up why it is not possible to communicate with Verisign's executives, and why they must be stopped and soon.

Because it wouldn't matter if one hundred percent of the traffic on the internet were HTTP, it still is not a reason to break DNS in order to insert advertising. The "service" they claim to be providing should be provided by the browsers, giving everyone a chance to implement their own solution to the problem of mistyped domain names. Then many possible solutions to this issue can be innovated. By breaking DNS to lie about the existence of domain names, they actually prevent anybody else from providing any solution. This is the exact opposite of innovation. And they are smart people at Verisign, they clearly and obviously know all this, and yet they are lying to every one about it. And that, in a nutshell is what makes me more furious about this than any other Internet legal issue has in a long long time, maybe ever, or at least since Network Solutions took the .com database offline and made it their own private property.

There was a story I heard once, about a company (Novell ?) which implemented their own file transfer protocol over the network. They did not use exponential backoff on retransmit, which made their protocol look much faster than TCP/IP. It would in fact hog all the bandwidth, bumping out all the more polite and well behaved protocols. This was great for them, but in fact as the network approached saturation, the system would fail catastrophically, for reasons obvious to Internet protocol designers.

At some meta-level, this is what is happening to the Internet itself now. Verisign is itself like the bad protocol, which does not play well with others. It is taking advantage of an opportunity which gives it a short term advantage, while degrading the entire network protocol infrastructure.


The great advantage that carpetbaggers like Sclavos have is that the non-technical community does not understand that good protocols do not happen by accident, and they are exquisitely hard to design. The deceptive simplicity of the core network protocols makes them terribly vulnerable to every new huckster selling some snake-oil "improvement", and the only defense against this is the hard-won experience and technical judgment of the Internet engineering community.

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