[IP] 2 more on VeriSign Capitulates (fwd)
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Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 02:47:41 +0200
From: "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IP] VeriSign Capitulates (fwd)
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IPers may be interested to consider what Verisign has obtained.
1. WLS will be hardly objected now
2. they have all the information they need to restart the same service ...
without wildcard - just enter the 100.000 typoed DNs and route them to a
Verisign short menu they collected from people reponses, plus Google. Exit
M$ service on IE.
3. they have some more weight now on the ccTLDs which use wildcards, naming
them bad guys to ICANN and proposing them IDNs support as a business
revenue replacement.
4. they shown that IRTF has not come with a single new idea in naming
semantic since 1983 when Mokapetris reversed the then generalized
intenatinoal system order and introduced dots, like in the IP addresses, so
the world could know how to restore the proper sequence. They will say they
are legitimate to propose new DNS services, on their DNS Atlas only (you
may recall that when they negotiated their Plan B, keeping them as
Registrar and Registry, they planed $M 500 to work on the DNS. It is worthe
one idea or two.). At http://dot-root.com we may give them a few. Or they
could just adopt Mokapetris' current vision of the TLD multilingual name
server, not needing the IETF revamp of all the browsers and mail agents, or
the http://i-dns.net plug-in to work.
5. did someone consider that SiteFInder was a brillant 40.000.000 user shot
at reviving Real Names against M$? (Hello Nico! nice try!) I started using
keywords for a while - I call this access engine for years and try to tune
it on my PC servers. Obviously Verisign has more CPU power than I have.
Some may want to reread IETF and W3C adopted "go:" scheme. It was nice to
type "keyword.com" and to get easily through.
Strange one only says Verisign, and never "Verisign, an SAIC Company". I
would be surprised they put themselves in a situation where they should
"capitulate".
jfc
At 01:31 04/10/03, Dave Farber wrote:
Delivered-To: dfarber+@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2003 16:02:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 15:44:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tim Wilde <twilde@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: VeriSign Capitulates
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40241-2003Oct3.html
And they act like they're the victims. Amazing.
"Without so much as a hearing, ICANN today formally asked us to shut down
the Site Finder service," said VeriSign spokesman Tom Galvin. "We will
accede to their request while we explore all of our options."
How about a public outcry? Did you miss that part? You don't deserve a
hearing.
Of course, they haven't removed the wildcard yet:
dig is-it-gone-yet.com. @a.gtld-servers.net. +short
64.94.110.11
--
Tim Wilde
twilde@xxxxxxxxxx
Systems Administrator
Dynamic DNS Network Services
http://www.dyndns.org/
--
From: Brett Glass <brett@xxxxxxxxxx>
As of 4 PM Mountain time:
%dig blurghifoogian.com
; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> blurghifoogian.com
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 13, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;; blurghifoogian.com, type = A, class = IN
;; ANSWER SECTION:
blurghifoogian.com. 15M IN A 64.94.110.11
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