Re: [ga] Re: I am mad about being discriminated against.
John and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,
Of course your right in part here, John. However as you know
sense 9/11, the powers that be so to speak such as the US Congress,
the presidents commission on the internet, the UN, and other NGO's
are not rushing to endorse this approach. Yet many more stakeholders
and users/stakeholders are taking that approach...
Beware however, Congress has several bills being considered that
may make the inclusive root structures and their users in abeyance
of the perhaps soon to be law. Hence why your approach may
not always be the wise or prudent one for many stakeholder/user...
Hence why what I briefly suggested yet again, is a perhaps
better, if not necessary strategy and therefore significant
lobbying that is properly focused as well, may bear better
fruit...
BTW John, how much if any lobbying has www.open-rsc.org
or www.newroot.com been doing directly or passively in
Washington, Geneva, and elsewhere? My guess is none..
Am I right?
John Palmer wrote:
> No Jeff, the solution is for people to realize that ICANN
> has no power over them if they would just change their
> computer settings. Each person has the power over his or
> her own computer and ISP's have the power to switch from
> ICANN any time they want.
>
> See www.open-rsc.org or www.newroot.com
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Hugh Dierker" <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Kathy Smith" <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 10:54 PM
> Subject: [ga] Re: I am mad about being discriminated against.
>
> > Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> > stakeholders/users,
> >
> > I can't help you enough alone. Maybe Chris Ambler can! Chris,
> > please help Eric's potential client out here if you would please..
> > Woops, I forgot Chris couldn't help himself and rejected others
> > able assistance with his once-upon-a-time, .WEB... Ahhhh well,
> > maybe asking Chris is less than a really good idea? Or is it?
> >
> > No, the answer left now for similar situations as you mention
> > is to garner enough of a group of stakeholders/users, lobby
> > congress unfortunately, but lobby them hard to help them to
> > provide for a set of regulations that ICANN and it's registries
> > or registrars must adhere to of pay very stiff automatic fines,
> > without right to appeal... It is a sad thing we are really faced
> > with escalating foolishness as it yet again seems ICANN is
> > engaged in.. I wonder whom will be the first to register
> > ICANNlaw.pro, if .pro is "Approved"...
> >
> >
> > Hugh Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > Let me see if I got this right,
> > >
> > > So this client walks in your door and with a million bucks wants to
> > > litigate.
> > >
> > > Ok, so what is the problem. Well the client is a gay, transvestite,
> > > married in SF Ca, attorney, Chiropractor hooker out of Cuba, that
> > > speaks Navajo and Piute, Mormon, eats only "Rocky Mountain Oysters"
> > > and lost an arm fighting an obscene war someplace for Osama B. La di
> > > Da. Oops, and quite obviously the client is a color and old and has an
> > > erroneous HIV positive test from the English government. Sorry I
> > > forgot the client has a picture of an organ tattooed on forehead, that
> > > pulsates with expression, - but oh goodness a religious group put it
> > > there (not the Mormons).
> > >
> > > Well the client says it has been discriminated against by this
> > > psuedo-governmental - contracting body, that is run by Afilias in
> > > fact. (oh dear, during the interview you find out that the citizenship
> > > is Australian and the client is applying for a USA immigrant Visa,
> > > based upon the fact that this company can only hire him with his
> > > particular status as an Ombudsman in California)<do not worry we have
> > > already established that an "ombudsman in California" is a profession
> > > worthy of dotPRO>
> > >
> > > Well I am an attorney only licensed in Belize (dotBZ) and low and
> > > behold it turns out the spouse is a porno queen from an asian nation
> > > that is Muslim, with a pilots license but cannot land or take off a
> > > Jet. Who just happened to dodge military service while a citizen of
> > > Bosnia. Sure, the spouse is now a boxcutter salesperson in France.
> > > Danged If the cousin is not Vinton Cerf.
> > >
> > > Well I tell you what, you take this money because no matter what;
> > > somebody somewhere discriminated against this client I damn well
> > > asure you.
> > >
> > > But I cannot sleep because I worry that if I take the case I may lose
> > > my dotPro moonrise spot.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me?
> > >
> > > Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> > > stakeholders/users,
> > >
> > > Good point. Yet in the traditional and still somewhat Victorian
> > > valued
> > > professional world, limited as that may be, the profession you refer
> > > to
> > > is and was not traditionally excepted as a "profession"... Yet in some
> > >
> > > countries prostitutes are registered professionals... So given the
> > > Circle ID article you mention, which I read recently myself and
> > > commented upon there, what if the lawyer/prostitute registering a .
> > > pro Domain was indeed also a prostitute as well as a side line?
> > > Would her domain name later be taken away once she was found
> > > out to be a prostitute in regards to the recent indecentcy reg's being
> > >
> > > considered?? And what would happen to this poor girls $2000.00
> > > she payed for the "Sunrise period" for registration of that domain
> > > name??
> > > Is that a regulatory Kink, pardon the pun?? >;)
> > >
> > > Hugh Dierker wrote:
> > >
> > > > I tell you mano,
> > > > this is even funnier and watch our Latin American and Asian Lawyers
> > > > say "what the Heck" I got to have a stinking norte americano badge,
> > > > to get a stinking dot.pro?
> > > > What were those to oldest professions?
> > > >
> > > > ======================================
> > > > ================================
> > > > [2] The Launch of .pro Domain for Professionals
> > > > ===============================================
> > > > =======================
> > > > INSIDE: Top-Level Domains
> > > > By Philippe Rodhain
> > > > Apr 15, 2004
> > > >
> > > > >From 5 April to 14 May 2004 trade mark owners can apply in the .pro
> > >
> > > > domain
> > > > for defensive registrations corresponding to their marks. The .pro
> > > > domain
> > > > is only available to doctors, lawyers and CPAs during this period,
> > > > known as
> > > > a "sunrise period". ...During the period when the creation of ten
> > > new
> > > > generic domains is being discussed, it seems timely to wonder
> > > whether
> > > > the
> > > > multiplicity of generic extensions is not killing the specificity
> > > > inherent
> > > > of each of them. In addition, having a "sunrise period" for this new
> > >
> > > > domain
> > > > might be perceived by trade mark owners as an invitation to spend
> > > > money
> > > > rather than as a measure aimed at protecting their intellectual
> > > > property
> > > > rights. >>>
> > > >
> > > > Read More + Add Your Comment:
> > > > http://www.circleid.com/article/568_0_1_0_C/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > > All former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,
> > > >
> > > > Beware ICANN Registries/registrars, you may be next inl ine
> > > > for some more Spam enforcement responsibility..
> > > >
> > > > See: http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/04/adultlabel.htm
> > > > and http://www.tc.gov/os/2004/04/040413adultemailfinalrule.pdf
> > > >
> > > > It has been my experience that most of the sexually explicit
> > > > spam I received were .BIZ domain names....
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
> > > strong!)
> > > >
> > > > "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> > > > Pierre Abelard
> > > >
> > > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > > > ===============================================================
> > > > Updated 1/26/04
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> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > >
> > > "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> > > Pierre Abelard
> > >
> > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > > ===============================================================
> > > Updated 1/26/04
> > > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
> > > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> > Pierre Abelard
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Registered Email addr with the USPS
> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> >
> >
> >
> >
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
Pierre Abelard
"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827