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Re: [ga] More on Sitefinder suspension



Dan and all former DNSO GA members,

 No Dan, the clauses to which Andy was referring to do exist
and are used.  As one that has done a number of these
sorts of USG contracts over the years I can certainly
attest to some of them.

  BTW, as I recall Worldcom/com - MCI had two of their
contracts with the FCC canceled/suspended using these very clauses.
I believe either Wired or slashdot reported on that aspect
some time ago in a couple of their articles one of which
I posted to this forum, See archives for further info.

 But Dan, I do not believe that there is a URL Reference
to these clauses on the NTIA web site.  So suggesting
that they do not exist simply because you are unable
to find them or Andy not providing a URL reference
for them is a rather unreasonable suggestion at best...

And BTW Dan, one of those clauses that I think
Andy was referencing is Clause 52.217-9

Yet another DOC/NTIA contact to gain specific info
would be Carol A.Silverman  301-258-4506
csilverman@xxxxxxx

Dan Steinberg wrote:

> No. I'm trying to say that if with the help of google and text searches
> people cant find the right clauses or texts when it comes to supporting
> their arguments I tend to doubt that said clauses exist in a precise
> form that would tend to support said arguments.
> I have been around this block often enough.  Vague recollection of
> clauses and pointing to things that dont exactly prove a point don't
> impress me anymore.  And I doubt they impress  the people who are
> actually in a position to do something either.
> So if you are going to claim that NTIA should step in and use a
> particular clause or clauses I suggest you take the time to reference them.
>
> admin wrote:
>
> >>Same thing for Russ.  If these clauses are so obviously applicable why
> >>do we have to go looking for them?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Because most people do not have clauses to cooperative agreements memorized.
> >This is nothing new or something that has never been used before.  These
> >clauses to which I refer cover all cooperative agreements and have been
> >around for many years.  The issue is whether NTIA wants to step in and use
> >them.
> >
> >Are you trying to say that because people don't have the clause memorized
> >that it cannot be used?
> >
> >Russ Smith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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