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Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate




Hi,

In a truly secret ballot, which is what we are planning to set up provisionally (awaiting the decision of the council on closing the vote) it would not be possible for Glen to identify the voters.

a.

On 17 Oct 2009, at 07:31, Gomes, Chuck wrote:


Glen could privately communicate the votes of each SG's Councilors to
the SG chair or in the case of constituencies to the Constituency
chairs.

Chuck

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Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate


But how do you prove to your SG that is actually what you
voted (and that you represented them appropriately?).

Adrian Kinderis


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Part 2 Each House determines a Candidate


Chuck raises an important point. Do the CSG Councilors intend
that their
votes be secret even within their SG? A secret ballot at the Council
level is a different issue from keeping Councilors' votes secret from
their constituents.

Tim

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Subject: RE: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed - Part 2
Each House determines a Candidate
From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, October 16, 2009 10:08 am
To: "Mary Wong" <MWong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Council GNSO" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Strictly from a personal point of view:

+ I favor an open ballot for accountability and transparency reasons,
but I also respect the concerns of individual Councilors.

+ If just one Councilor requests a secret ballot, I then am
fine with a
secret ballot with at least one caveat that the votes of each
SG's reps
be communicated to the SG.

+ If am fine with Avri's suggestion to poll the Council regarding
whether to hold a secret or open ballot.


I have raised this issue on the RySG list and am waiting their
direction.  In the end I will respond to the poll in accordance with
that direction and not my personal views.

Chuck

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Subject: Re: [council] Council wide Nominations are closed -
Part 2 Each
House determines a Candidate



Hi

On Oct 15, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
Do other council members believe this needs to be a secret ballot?

I think that at a time when there seems to be a lot of
mistrust amongst
the ICANN community and. more importantly, when there are many new
entrants/participants and Councillors, it's important to have complete
transparency in the GNSO processes. As such, I don't support
the idea of
a secret ballot in this case.

Cheers
Mary


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