I have a slightly different view of this
and question what’s to be gained from sending another letter to the GAC
at this stage when we’ll meet with them quite soon?
As Avri pointed out, ideally the process should include time for Constituencies to comment
before it’s sent and that means it’s only likely to go just prior to
the Sydney meeting.
With many participants in the GAC and GNSO leaving home a few days earlier to travel,
that’s a pretty tight timeframe.
Overall, I’d tend to support Chuck’s
suggestion that we spend that time developing talking points for the face to face
session.
Tony
From:
owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
Sent: 30 May 2009 02:49
To: Stéphane Van Gelder
Cc: Gomes,
Chuck; Avri Doria;
Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] GAC
Responds to Board on Geographic Names
I think this letter is a
good idea.
Olga
2009/5/29 Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
Would anyone be strongly opposed to a brief letter from Avri as she suggest?
After all, it's pretty clear that the GNSO Council is not in agreement with
the reservation of names at the 2nd level as suggested by the GAC letter...
Stéphane
Le 29/05/09 22:53, « Gomes, Chuck »
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
> If we cannot do a letter before our meeting with the GAC in Sydney, then
> shouldn't we at least develop talking points about this for our meeting
with
> the GAC.
>
> Chuck
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Avri Doria
>> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 4:16 PM
>> To: Council GNSO
>> Subject: Re: [council] GAC Responds to Board on Geographic Names
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If the council is willing to draft and send such a letter I
>> am sure it could.
>> Given the issue raised over the sending of our previous
>> letter, we would need to make sure that the process included
>> time for any constituencies that wished to comment before
>> sending. I am not sure what that means in terms of time, but
>> I am not certain we could complete it before Sydney.
>>
>> Alternatively I could draft a brief letter from the chair,
>> indicating that the interpretation is not, in my opinion,
>> necessarily consistent with GNSO position and that except
>> for specific issues where the GNSO council has published an
>> explicit consensus statement to the contrary, it remains
>> interested in seeing that the Policy recommendations made in
>> 2007 for new gTLDs be implemented.
>>
>> Are council members interested in either of these, a variant
>> or another option?
>>
>> a.
>>
>> On 29 May 2009, at 11:51, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>>
>>> Avri,
>>>
>>> I agree this position needs to be reiterated. How do you
>> suggest doing
>>> so?
>>> Would a formal email to Janis be the right way to go?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 29/05/09 16:48, « Avri Doria
» <avri@xxxxxxx> a écrit :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned in the call yesterday, I personally argue
that the
>>>> GNSO and GAC are _not_ in agreement on the reservation
of
>> names at
>>>> the 2nd level and that the GAC letter is mistaken in this
>> asumption.
>>>> In a conversation with Janis Karklins after he received the
letter
>>>> and asked me if the GAC could so assume, I answered that it
_could
>>>> not_.
>>>> I went on to point out that the only meaning that could be
>> taken from
>>>> our not explicitly discussing the reservation of names at
>> the second
>>>> level was that we had not come to full consensus on this yet
and
>>>> discussions were still ongoing on the GNSO council's
>> position on this
>>>> subject. I can only assume that I was not clear enough
or
>> explicit
>>>> enough in my comments to him.
>>>>
>>>> I believe that it is important to reiterate that the GNSO
still
>>>> supports its supermajority decision in 2007 on the policy
>>>> recommendation that emerged from the bottom-up process and
>> that the
>>>> GNSO council viewed any deviations from those policy
>> recommendations
>>>> with concern, even in cases where it did not make an explicit
>>>> consensus based public statement.
>>>>
>>>> a.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 29 May 2009, at 10:32, Glen de
Saint Géry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [To: council[at]gnso.icann.org; liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org]
>>>>> [To: ga[at]gnso.icann.org;
announce[at]gnso.icann.org]
>>>>> [To: regional-liaisons[at]icann.org]
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-28may09-en.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> GAC Responds to Board on Geographic Names
>>>>>
>>>>> 28 May 2009
>>>>>
>>>>> On 26 May 2009, the GAC submitted a final letter [PDF,
72K]
>>>>> http://www.icann.org/correspondence/karklins-to-twomey-26may09-
>>>>> en.pdf
>>>>> responding to the ICANN Board's concerns about the ability
to
>>>>> implement the provisions of article 2 of the GAC
Principles
>>>>> regarding new gTLDs, particularly paragraph 2.71. The
letter
>>>>> recommends, as a minimum, that the names contained in
three
>>>>> internationally recognised lists must be reserved at the
second
>>>>> level at no cost to governments of all new gTLDs. However,
other
>>>>> issues relating to geographic names at the top level and
the
>>>>> potential misuse of the respective names at the second
level
>>>>> requires further discussion.
>>>>>
>>>>> The GAC's letter is in response to the 6 March, 2009 ICANN
Board
>>>>> resolution, and subsequent letter from ICANN of 17 March,
2009
>>>>> seeking GAC members input on possible options to resolve
the
>>>>> outstanding implementation issues regarding the protection
of
>>>>> geographic names at the second level
>>>>> (http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-06mar09.htm#08
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>> http://www.icann.org/correspondence/twomey-to-karklins-17mar09-en.pd
>>>>> f)
>>>>> [PDF, 245K].
>>>>>
>>>>> The GAC provided an interim response to this request on 24
April
>>>>> 2009
>>>>> http://www.icann.org/correspondence/karklins-to-twomey-24apr09.pdf
>>>>> [PDF, 95K].
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15 May 2009, the GNSO Council provided comments on the
>> proposal
>>>>> outlined in the GAC's letter of 24 April 2009,
>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/correspondence/gnso-ltr-to-gac.pdf
>>>>> [PDF, 69K].
>>>>>
>>>>> The Board requested a final report from the GAC by 25
>> May, 2009 and
>>>>> which will now be published 29 May, 2009.
>>>>>
>> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-2-24apr09-en.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Glen de Saint Géry
>>>>> GNSO Secretariat
>>>>> gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> http://gnso.icann.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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