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Re: [council] IAB Statement on IDN



This seems reasonable.  I would urge that if the Board or staff have any
thoughts on the matter prior to Rio, that they should share them. In particular, advice from Louis on the nature of ICANN's responsibilities and its authority in ths area under the agreements with the USG and VRSN would be very helpful in defining the scope of the process and the substance.

Harold

Bruce Tonkin wrote:

Hello Harold,

Given the packed agenda already for the 20th I suggest we defer this discussion 
until the meeting in Rio.

I think we should encourage a meeting between GNSO council and ICANN Staff (and/or Board 
members) in Rio to get some clarification on your question.  To me it is an important 
process question as to what does ICANN do with any advice from IAB or the Security and 
Advisory Committee.  Ideally I would have thought under the new ICANN processes that the 
Board might as a result raise an "Issue paper" via the ICANN staff as a result 
of such advice and get some input from the relevant council (which may be RIR and GNSO).

So I recommend placing on the agenda for the meeting in Rio.

Regards,
Bruce







-----Original Message-----
From: Harold J. Feld [mailto:hfeld@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:46 AM
To: Names Council (E-mail)
Cc: Alejandro Pisanty; Vint Cerf; Louis Touton; M. Stuart Lynn
Subject: [council] IAB Statement on IDN


Bruce and fellow Council members:

I have, as yet, received no response to email of last week asking for clarification on how ICANN will proceed on the IAB statement regarding Verisign's IDN proposal (copied below). I should therefore like to request that the matter be placed on the agenda for the 20th.

I wish to stress that I have no wish to debate the merits of the IAB statement and that, I believe, ICANN has acted entirely properly and within its mandate in consulting the IAB on a technical matter that pertains to the stability of the Internet. What I would ask us to discuss, and invite resolution from the ICANN Board, is what happens _next._ The IAB statement was in that middle ground where conflicting assesments of risk and guiding policy are most conflicted and where a clear standard on regulation is desperately needed. It will not serve users for Verisign to wodely deploy, only to be required to shut down its IDN system becuase it induces instability in the DNS. At the same time, some risk must be tolerable or we devolve to total statis, which is anathema to the dynamic nature of the Internet.

Harold Feld

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Stuart, Vint and Louis (I have cc:ed the Names Council list, as I expect this to be a matter of some interest):

I am writing to ask what follows from yesterday's IAB Response to questions about Verisign's IDN efforts.

Let me begin by stressing that it was absolutely proper for the BoD to consult the IAB. This is an issue of technical stability and interoperability which lies at the heart of ICANN's purview. And, if it appeared that Verisign's IDN project would cause the DNS to crash and burn then action under either the Cooperative Agreement or Verisign's registry contract would certainly have been appropriate.

That said, it appears that the IAB did not reach that conclusion. As a lay person, I am not entirely sure what the IAB precisely did say. They clearly had some issues with Verisign's IDN, and in particular appeared to favor a uniform approach among gTLDs arrived at via the traditional IETF standards.

We now come to the perilous intersection of technical stability and policy. It appears that Verisign's IDN does not create a crisis. But the IAB has issues. How do we (ICANN) proceed?

There is, of course, a straightforward legal question which lies in Louis' baliwick. What is ICANN legally required to do, and what is it empowered to do? But there is a broader question of what ICANN _should_ do. Arguably, having determined that no crisis exists, ICANN should leave well enough alone. Alternatively, if the IAB assesment indicates that there is a potential for real disaster, some prophylactic steps might be justified. At the very least, further discussion is warranted and some means of monitoring so as to avert a crisis before it occurs would seem desirable.

But if the crux of the IAB objection is that Verisign has moved forward without the blessing of the IETF, or that there is some potential for consumer confusion, or that all IDN should be standardized for reasons other than interoperability, then, it seems to me, a very different approach is warranted.

As I have said before, I am very leary of ICANN becoming an industry regulatory body. I have some experience of both public utility regulation and media regulation in the United States. They are not pretty, but such intrusive regulation is sometimes necessary. But the entire purpose of ICANN is to spare the Internet from such a need. While some have proposed treating gTLD registries as public utilities or public assets, this has never been sanctioned as ICANN's mandate. Rather, ICANN exists to maintain sufficient stability to allow the DNS to both function and continue to evolve.

I would therefore personally urge a course that permits the greatest autonomy for gTLDs consistent with basic principles of interoperability, technical stability, and fairness to all registries. Verisign should not, of course, enjoy a greater freedom to innovate than other TLDs. But innovation in registry-level services is, it seems to me, a positive good. Indeed, one of the criteria in the .org re-delegation was whether the new registry proposed innovative services.

In particular, I hope that nothing is done which would appear to make conformance to IETF standards mandatory, or which would limit innovation until the IETF has formalized a standard or process. The great strength of the IETF (again, from an outsider's perspective) has been its voluntary nature. "Rough consensus and running code" has fostered considerable innovation precisely because it imposed no orthodoxy. Anyone with a different approach to a problem was free to try it, and this competition of ideas has served the Internet exceedingly well. While enough of us rely on the DNS that experimentation cannot be allowed to place the Internet at-large at risk, I believe the Internet -- and the IETF and IAB -- would be disserved by making IETF standards mandatory.

I wish I had a definite suggestion to offer on how to proceed, but I don't. I can only say that ICANN has behaved prudently so far, and I hope it will continue to do so. But we must not equate prudence with stasis, nor equate caution with the elimination of all risk.

Harold Feld
GNSO Rep.
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