... ciao: : on "9-9-2008" "B 650" writ: : I think it's a bit of a leap to call this a DoS vulnerability. : The power cycle of the remainder of the frame can be done at your leisure which, convenient if nothing else, still has to be done. so, at some point, "all" 'mission critical applications', are forced to fail. 'when' a "DOS" happens, does not change its essential nature ... -- ... i'm a man, but i can change, if i have to , i guess ...