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Re: Diebold Global Election Management System (GEMS) Backdoor Acc ount Allows Authenticated Users to Modify Votes



This is very true...
At a recent family gathering I spent about an hour trying to explain to various people why "open source" voting machines are more secure.
Everyone perceived "open" as being able to go in and change votes...
The fact that I was trying to explain the open source model for the first time did not help... I simply don't understand why a company doesn't do open source voting machines... you could sell the hardware and the software.. and get the open source community to write the software for you.... It seems like a perfect arrangement.


Adam Jacob Muller


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On Sep 27, 2004, at 10:01 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:

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From: Claudius Li [mailto:aprentic@xxxxxxxxxx]

So my question is, given that this seems to be a solved
problem why is there so much debate on finding the solution?
Surely I am missing something obvious.

You're missing the social dynamics around it. There are several parties
involved:

- State officials who actually pick the voting equipment. They generally
are politicians, with a background in law or business.  They don't
understand the complicated technical issues behind electronic voting.

- Companies who build the voting equipment. Their motive is profit. They want to get a marketable product out quickly and cheaply. They perceive (correctly) that the audience they're selling to does not understand or care about complicated security issues, and can be easily impressed by trivial
but sophisticated-looking features.

- The public. They don't understand these issues either, and they have a
short attention span.

- The news media. They don't push security issues because they lack good
visuals and don't fit into a 15-second news spot.  Anything longer and
they'll lose their audience (see above.)

- Computer scientists and voting activists.  They *do* understand the
issues, but are unable to explain them in a way the news media, the public, and state officials find compelling and understandable. The companies who
build the equipment can easily label them as alarmists or conspiracy
theorists.